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Re: Dropping 386 support



On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:55:24 +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:

> Andres Salomon wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> The kernel team is considering dropping 386 support (the 80386
>> processor, not the i386 arch) from Debian.  Currently, in order to
>> support 386, we include a 486 emulation patch (the patch can be viewed
>> from here:
>> <http://svn.debian.org/viewcvs/kernel/trunk/kernel/source/kernel-source-2.6..8-2.6.8/debian/patches/x86-i486_emu.dpatch>).
[...]
> 
> trunk/kernel/source/kernel-source-2.6..8-2.6.8/debian/patches/x86-i486_emu.dpatch:
> unknown location
> 
>     HTTP Response Status
> 
> 404 Not Found
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/org/svn.debian.org/viewcvs/lib/viewcvs.py", line 3191, in main
>     request.run_viewcvs()
>   File "/org/svn.debian.org/viewcvs/lib/viewcvs.py", line 308, in
>   run_viewcvs
>     % self.where, '404 Not Found')
> ViewCVSException: 404 Not Found:
> trunk/kernel/source/kernel-source-2.6..8-2.6.8/debian/patches/x86-i486_emu.dpatch:
> unknown locatio
> 
> Wrong path?  Or is ViewCVS broken currently?
> 
> 

Whoops, too many dots in kernel-source-2.6.8-2.6.8. That should be:
<http://svn.debian.org/viewcvs/kernel/trunk/kernel/source/kernel-source-2.6.8-2.6.8/debian/patches/x86-i486_emu.dpatch>


> The bug report you've listed isn't quite helpful since the discusssion
> ends with Herbert saying that everything seems to be ok and Arjan moving
> on to lkml, but no link or whatsoever has been added.
> 
> 
> 


It ends w/ Herbert saying he'll punt it onto the new kernel maintainers.
The thread can be read here:
<http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/205839>. People find various
problems w/ the patch.   Alan Cox proposes an interesting alternative
(trapping SIGILLs and emulating the necessary instructions in userspace),
but I haven't seen any implementations of it.


>> Reasons for dropping 386 support are as follows:
>>   * d-i currently requires at least 20 megs of ram to install.  My 386
>> had 4 megs of ram, which required using lowmem w/ potato's installer. I
>> don't see standard d-i as being a viable option for installing debian
>> on your 386 anytime soon.
> 
> I guess the lowmem version won't help either?
> 
> 
> 

I believe the 20meg version *is* the lowmem install target.  The standard
one requires something like 32 megs, last I heard.





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