Re: 5.23 starting move to testing
Le 19/10/2021 à 21:52, Shai Berger a écrit :
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:37:14 +0200 (CEST)
> Borden <borden_c@tutanota.com> wrote:
>
>> 17 Oct 2021, 07:16 by brad@fineby.me.uk:
>>> Taking note of the thread regarding updating to 5.23 in Sid, I'll be
>>> holding off for a few days until migration to testing is complete.
>>>
>> I'm sure this has been answered before, but this seems to be a
>> perennial issue wherever there's a major upgrade. Since Testing is
>> supposed to be free of known system-breaking errors, why can't the
>> packages be held back until the it's all ready?
>>
> This not only has been answered before in general -- it has been
> effectively discussed on this very list, only last week.
>
> As a user, you can use "apt upgrade" or "aptitude safe-upgrade". With
> either of these, you will not get half-system updates. If the whole
> upgrade is ready, you'll get it; if it isn't, you will get suggestions
> to either keep older versions of packages with updates, or drop the
> not-yet-updated packages. Then, you should choose what to do according
> to your taste and the selection of not-yet-updated packages.
>
> Asking for any non-stable flavor to act like stable is making the
> packagers' work harder, and IMO as a grateful user who is not involved
> in packaging, that is completely uncalled for.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shai.
>
>
With apt upgrade on testing, you often get partial non working upgrade.
I was recently told to "only do complete upgarde", but when I asked how
to know the upgrade is compelte, I got no answer.
Tonight apt list --upgradable lists me
bluedevil/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
drkonqi/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2]
kactivitymanagerd/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from:
5.21.5-2]
kgamma5/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2]
kinfocenter/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
kmenuedit/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
kscreen/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
ksshaskpass/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
kwayland-integration/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from:
5.21.5-2]
libkdecorations2-5v5/testing 4:5.23.0-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.21.5-2]
libkf5screen-bin/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from:
4:5.21.5-2]
libkf5screen7/testing,unstable 4:5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from:
4:5.21.5-2]
libpam-kwallet-common/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 all [upgradable from:
5.21.5-2]
libpam-kwallet5/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.21.5-2]
plymouth-theme-breeze/testing,unstable 5.23.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from:
5.21.5-2]
and apt upgrade would upgrade them giving a mix of 5.21 and 5.23
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