Re: plasma 5.5 in experimental
Hello Marc,
On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 21:37:03 CEST Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 07:53:42PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez
Meyer wrote:
> > I'm afraid that's an issue of the builders. it will get solved whenever
> > either qt 5.6 gets into unstable (we are hopping to have the rc soon) or
> > the kde stuff does.
>
> The situation seems to be unchanged since from two months ago. May I
> ask for an update? What's the reason for Debian unstable KDE being
> half a year behind upstream with the last unstable upload being four
> months old, having missed an entire upstream release row (the 5.5
> numbers)?
>
> Is this just lack of personpower or a technical issue?
I really like to see things updated as well.
From what I gathered the situation is still blocked by Qt 5.6.1 being
finalized and entering unstable.
unormal on #debian-qt-kde gathered as much as:
"lisandro told me yesterday that 5.6.1 is planned 6 to 8 weeks after 5.6
(we're now in week 4 or so) and then IIRC they plan to first upload to
experimental and then to unstable."
"Target to get Qt 5.6.1 out at the beginning of May"
Thing is while Qt 5 has hefty regressions already that break multiscreen via
randr completely, such as:
[kwin] [Bug 361704] New: window on external screen disappears when hibernating
with external screen connected and resuming when it is not connected
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361704
which are summarized into
[kwin] [Bug 341497] Segfault in Qt since the (at least) the xcb screen backend
cannot deal with "no screen" conditions
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341497
and
Qt GUI application disappear or crash when no screens are available
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-42985
I already read that while Qt 5.6 hopefully fixes these (still not sure), it
also contains *new* regressions:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361704#c9
So it appears to me right now there are at least some severe issues with the
foundation Plasma / KF 5 is based on: Qt.
I didn´t read about why Qt/KDE debian team waits for Qt 5.6.1 instead of going
with Qt 5.6 for unstable, but that may be part of the reason.
If you want to find out in more detail, I suggest you ask on #debian-qt-kde on
OFTC IRC.
Of course I think the Debian Qt/KDE team can benefit from more helping hands.
For packaging I think Maxy´s mass-uploading new packages with his scripts and
other people helping with packaging is working out quite good already. But any
new packages need user testing then, especially those batch uploaded ones, and
the Debian bugtracker in regards to Plasma 5 is in a sorry state. On DebConf I
gathered from Maxy that the Qt/KDE team really appreciate any help with bug
triaging.
So or so, nothing of what I write is an official statement of the team. Thats
just as much as I gathered here and there.
So hopefully beginning of May Qt 5.6.1 will enter experimental, then unstable
and… then it might go quite quick. I saw Maxy uploading 50+ or even 100+
packages a day often enough already :).
Thanks,
--
Martin
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