Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Miércoles, 6 de Julio de 2005 02:40, Bob Proulx escribió: > > What answer do you choose? What are your follow-up actions? Please > > be specific. > > 1. aptitude Unfortunately that brings up an interactive GUI. I have far too many machines to interactively babysit each and every one of them uniquely. It is just not practical. > 2. Mark, in the list of upgradable packages, all packages that you > don't want explicitly installed as automatically installed > (e.g. kdelibs-data, is a package that I don't want per se, so I mark > it as automatically installed, and it will be removed if no other > package needs it, but kept if another one needs it). > > 3. Mark as upgradable all packages that can be upgradable. > > 4. g > > 5. READ what happens. And with this I mean that you really should > try to understand why it happens, and solve it, because it can be > solved. In this screen you are supposed to check what is scheduled, > and change what you don't want, instead of blindly pressing keys, or > assuming everything is done. Thanks for the suggestions here. On the next upgrade that wants to remove something that should not be removed I will try this and note down what it is doing. > > > I know this sounds harsh, but I think you need to keep your suggestions > > > to yourself. You're leading newbies wildly astray. > > > > I disagree. One of the base values of Debian is that we will not hide > > our problems. Unfortunately KDE has definitely had a history of > > upgrade problems. So please do not ignore the issues. That is not > > doing users any good service. > > What is not going to do a good service to users, is to share a root > account where everyone is doing things in a different way. Teach > them to use only aptitude or only apt-get, but the right way, > please. What are different ways to use aptitude which would be bad? What is an incorrect way to use aptitude? I can't really think of any. So this statement leaves me not knowing what is being discussed. To be clear I am talking about these commands. Are any of these incorrect use of aptitude? If so why? aptitude update aptitude install <package> aptitude install -d -y <package> aptitude install -s -y <package> aptitude remove <package> aptitude purge <package> aptitude upgrade aptitude dist-upgrade Those are the commands I am talking about. I may have forgotten one along the way. I am really not aware of any other uses of aptitude. > Right now, is pretty easy to test that the KDE upgrades are working > pretty well (just install sid in a chroot, and upgrade to a recent > KDE version), so if you are experiencing that brokeness, is very > probable that is a problem in your system. And hopefully all behind us now that Sarge has released. Bob
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