I'm building an inofficial package for the KickPIM kicker applet. I found that the applet crashes every time libstdc++5-dev is upgraded. After a rebuild it works until the next upgrade. I'm curious why this is so, this never happened to me with other KDE software. Michael -- Michael Schuerig They tell you that the darkness mailto:email@example.com is a blessing in disguise. http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ --Janis Ian, "From Me To You"