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making a file with root permissions

    Greetings Bill:

So sorry you spent so much time fooling with the file.  A quick call here 
could have saved you some time, though I do admit to being gone a lot of 

If you still have the file on your drive, probably in 
/home/bill/YourFileName, then you can simply move it with the 'mv' command as 
root!  Also note that you can do a "dir" that is quite powerful:  'ls -al'.  
'ls' by it self will show files and directories that are not hidden.  By 
adding the '-al' to the 'ls' command, you can see the whole directory, hidden 
files, who *owns* the file, what *group* the file belongs to, and *who* can 
*read* the file!  This will also show if it can be *executed*!  Very powerful.

The next is way to do something special is to vi!  open a Konsole, switch to 
superuser: 'su -', and do note that space and hiphen, that makes you root 
with all of roots *extra stuff (tm)* :)  Now open a vi with the command 'vi'. 
You now have the most powerful and fastest editor at your disposal.  This is 
a command driven editor, and it doesn't come with a newbieuserfriendly gui. . 
.  To add stuff to your file, first press 'i' for (i)nsert, type your text.  
Now get out of insert mode with the 'esc' key.  Now save your document by 
pressing and holding the shift key, and pressing the letters 'zz'.  The whole 
thing would look like this:
vi AFunnyLetterToJaye.txt    (this creates the name and opens the editor
i           starts the insert mode
esc       back to editor command mode
Shift zz  saves the precious work and exits the editor.

Emacs is also workable and useable I THINK as superuser.

I hear the echo like voice say:  "Hey Jaye, I DID save that file that I 
created as user bill, what else do I need to do after I move it?"

Very good question Bill!  I would change the owner & group flags to root.  
That is really simple:  chown (CHange OWNer) is the command to do this.  we 
would issue the command:  chown root.root YourFileName (enter)  :)
Note the first root is the owner, followed by the period and no spaces, the 
second root is the group.

"What the hell are groups for?"

Bill, you are delighting me with these great questions!  The owner and groups 
are important for keeping a tight lock on security of your computer.  I don't 
want the world to have access to my sound system, so I changed all my group 
for sound to 'audio', then I only added two people to that group, root and 
jaye.  Now if *anyone* else were to log onto my box, they can't touch my 
sound card, and those programs that need my sound.  Not much security there, 
but that is only at first glance.  If a program has a security vulnerability 
that could possibly give root permissions on a buffer overflow to my sound 
demon, then I COULD have had a problem.  But my group effort took care of the 
problem before it could ever be exploited.

Another very good idea is the 'disk' group.  Bill needs to save stuff to the 
hard drive, floppy, cdburner etc.  However, joeBlow doesn't need this right.  
Joeblow might be just simply looking at the webpage my computer provides, but 
that is purely a readonly issue.  So, bill could hack his way on the box, yet 
still not have the right to save a simple text file on the drives!  That is 
the *root* of this simple security measure, and the root of much anger by 
newbies that don't read manuals.

There are several basic, and simple commands I think any user should know.  
They are not specifically related to just linux, since I have the same 
feeling when I am in a DOS command mode.  Things like "dir" and 'ls' are 
basics.  'md' and 'mkdir', 'del' 'rm'.  Note however that linux provides many 
many extra functional arguements for each of the commands.  'man ls' will 
give you a very good idea of what I mean.

Now, reading a (man)ual page is ok, but here is another trick you have.  Open 
up konqueror web browser.  Now, in the url field, enter:  #ls  (click go).  
Your browser has the ability to uncompress that manual page, then display it 
on your web browser, *and* add hyperlinks to related pages!  Some times I 
like using it with the scroll bar, other times, a simple console (Konsole) is 
what I prefer.

I have a good book here, if you would like to borrow it.  It applies to all 
linux, but is clearly slanted to the redhat and mandrake flavors.  It applies 
generically, and I think it helps take out the unknown elements.

End of essay :)

tatah Bill, 73


Jaye Inabnit\ARS ke6sls\/A GNU-Debian linux user\/ http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls
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