> Afaik, kde isn't a x-session-manager, > well, kde is not, but startkde invokes ksmserver, which is one -> kde is registered as a session manager. > KDM is, > WRONG! the player loses 1000 bucks ... :) kdm = K _Display_ Manager (dm|xinit) invokes [sm invokes] wm make sense of this yourself. :) greetings