Ivan, I finally got around to doing a manual ugrade from 2.0.1 to 2.1 and noticed that the only things needing liblcms and libmng are those apps I compiled myself when 2.0.1 was installed... are they history now, and the apps needing them should be recompiled for 2.1? (the only reason I have them is because KDE depended on them at one time). later, Bruce