Hi Per! On 18.08.2014 23:38, Per Andersson wrote: [...] > There might also be a slight difference in taxonomy, e.g. > where should multiplayer network games that run on console > be placed junior-net or junior-text (or both)? I'm well aware of debian-junior. Thanks for bringing this topic up for discussion. Actually I have already tried to avoid duplicating your effort and left out a few games on purpose because I thought that people who are looking for games for children will most likely find debian-junior. There are some tasks in debian-games that are rather big and seem rather unspecific on first glance, e.g. arcade or the puzzle task. In fact those tasks contain all games someone would probably find in some Debian or FreeDesktop menu under the same name. So those tasks are for people who want simply all games from one specific category. »games-tetris« and the not yet released »games-mindesweeper« are a subset of »games-puzzle« and more interesting for people who are looking for a specific type of game. Now let me get back to your question. If a game is suitable for network gaming and also a console game, it makes perfectly sense to include it in both tasks in my opinion. The question is rather whether parents really choose games for their children based on features like single- or multiplayer mode or rather because they think that they are suitable for 3-6 year old or 7-12 year old children or if they involve action (and possibly violence) or if they challenge their children's ability to solve a logic task. [...] > Any bright ideas on how we can join in an effort to cooperate > between junior-games and games tasks? > > In some areas it is quite easy, e.g. junior-puzzle could depend > on games-tetris, instead of listing a subset of the tetris games > manually. > > In contrast, games-puzzle probably lists to many puzzle games > to be relevant for junior-puzzle. > > > Ideas (and help) welcome! 1. We could develop special tasks for children and maintain those packages within the Debian Games Blend and you could simply depend on those packages. The downside is that they won't show up in your web sentinel for now as Andreas has already pointed out. 2. We could concentrate on debian-junior and overhaul the games tasks. Personally I think that debian-junior should contain tasks like junior-games-teenager or junior-games-small-children. Then you could create metapackages with games from different categories dedicated to certain peer groups. Probably I would drop -net, -gl or arcade in favor of those tasks. To sum up my trail of thought here: I believe debian-games should focus on game types and technical aspects of game development whereas debian-junior should consider social aspects as well. I'm happy to help you with creating such packages be it for debian-games or debian-junior. Regards, Markus
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