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Re: Remaining task packages ...



On 15 May 2001, at 11:21, Ben Armstrong wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 03:17:23PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> > 
> > >     junior-simulation-games
> > > 	Depends: freeciv
> > lincity
> 
> Needs a description for our package listing (focus on using this
> package with children, appropriate age, etc.).
> 
> > >     junior-internet-tools
> > > 	Depends: mozilla
> > Hmmm, seems really hard to me to suggest a reasonable browser.  I
> > would use mozilla for my own, but I suspect many people will suggest
> > other browsers.
> 
> Can I kick-start this discussion again?  What would make a good
> junior-internet-tools package?  That's next up on my list to make. 
> Steer clear of Gnome and KDE dependencies, please.  Also keep in mind
> our age 8 and under "initial audience", with 7 to 12 being our
> secondary audience. If children 8 and under don't use anything other
> than a web browser, and only occasionally send email (and then do that
> from a parent's account) then we can just focus on providing two,
> possibly three browsers:
> 
> 1. best GUI browser (that would be mozilla I think)

moz wins there...but why not include something like skipstone (so 
that people with little ram can use it). I really wish konq. was more 
independent of KDE (I installed it, and then had to install all of 
KDE for it to work right), because it probably is the best browser 
for GNU/Linux (GUI) today.

> 
> 2. best "light" GUI browser (suggestions?)
> 

chimera2 ;) Actually, it would probably win for least system resource 
usage of an X browser, but it is old (supports partial html 3 :-\ ), 
based on Xt (making it semi-hard to use), and takes some time to 
render complex html. But, it uses almost no ram at all. I still 
wouldn't include it because of its age. Ar. konq. is also somewhat 
light on system resources as well, and would fit great here (stupid 
evil KDE! :)

> 3. best non-GUI browser (lynx?  links?)  or do children even need
> this?
> 

links wins this one. Most kids won't need a text based browser, and 
if they do an adult would be able to install it for them.

> Email is a decision children's sys admins will probably wish to make
> on their own.  So unless there is a clear winner for a "child-friendly
> email program" I'm inclined to leave that out of "version 1" of Debian
> Jr.  As for other networked apps, I cannot think of any (non-game)
> Internet apps that I would use with my children.  Can you?
> 


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