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Re: Quitting Debian Java packaging - HOWTO best



Hello Cedric,

On 22/10/11 13:24, Cédric Pineau wrote:

  Hello Eric.

  I once waited for an answer from Christine regarding freemind and then
forgot it all, but I'm still interested in packaging it and related libs.
  I currently trying to package EJS with Georges Khaznadar (Georges is
debian maintener and EJS user with little java knowledge, I'm a java
developper).
  I understand when you say that "a good future packager should be able
to find their way and not rely on step by step instructions", but it's
really not easy at first place to get which tool to use, which is
obsolete, which is prefered..
  Would you mind giving help on more time to get me started on it ?

I'll answer as many questions as you want, but you need to tell me where you're stuck (even in French :-) ).

My recommendation to start with were and are:

- New Maintainers' Guide from http://www.debian.org/devel/
- then browse through Developer's Reference from the same page, to get a
feel.
- CDBS is also important as FreeMind package is made with it:
http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/cdbs-doc.html
- Java specific:
1. The Java Policy from the same above devel page
2. http://pkg-java.alioth.debian.org/
a. FreeMind (and everything else) is in SVN, see Wiki http://wiki.debian.org/Java/JavaSvn
b. you should go on the list debian-java (pkg-java-maintainers is of
slightly less interest).

And I know it's quite a lot of material, but well, I don't think there is really a shortcut.

Eric


  Cédric


2011/10/22 Eric Lavarde <deb@zorglub.s.bawue.de
<mailto:deb@zorglub.s.bawue.de>>

    Hello,

    I didn't find any time for quite a long time to maintain my
    packages, and before their quality suffers under my lack of
    attention, I'd prefer to properly manage my "retirement", and would
    like to hear your advices, and possibly take of ownership.

    Based on [1], list of packages I'm maintaining right now; they're
    all under maintenance of Debian Java Maintainers, but  I think it
    would be wrong to only remove my name from the Uploaders and say
    good bye, so here what I'd think doing:

    * freemind - already RFA, someone contacted me a while ago but
    nothing came out of it. See below.

    * freeplane - branch of FreeMind - I would also RFA or even orphan it.

    * knopflerfish-osgi - dependency of Freeplane - RFA or orphan.

    * libjcalendar-java - used to be a dependency of FreeMind, not
    anymore, dependency of no package, and popcon 52 - candidate for
    removal!

    * libjgoodies-forms-java - dependency of multiple packages, this one
    is already managed by the team. I would just remove my name from the
    uploaders in SVN.

    * libjibx1.1-java, only a dependency of FreeMind, it could be
    removed as FreeMind works with Java 1.2 (needs a rebuild though) -
    then could be removed as no other dependent package.

    * libjibx1.2-java - dependency of multiple packages, this one is
    already managed by the team. I would just remove my name from the
    uploaders in SVN.

    * simplyhtml - dependency of FreeMind and Freeplane (works also
    standalone) - also RFA or orphan.

    Few questions:

    1. everybody agree to the approach drawn above?

    2. does someone know by heart the procedure to remove a package?
    (else, GIYF, I know)

    3. Should I RFA or orphan a team-maintained package (or just remove
    myself as uploader)?

    4. My first experience with RFA of FreeMind was not very positive,
    so I'd like to hear your own experience and thinking to do it
    possibly better: the first person who contacted me didn't know about
    SVN, Debian packaging, etc which is OK (neither did I when I
    started), I helped them to find the right links and answered
    questions as they came, but didn't take them by the hand, with the
    thinking that a good future packager should be able to find their
    way and not rely on step by step instructions. Further candidates
    were put in contact with the first person, but nothing came out of
    it. And now the first person doesn't react anymore. I tend to think
    I was right with my opinion about good future packagers, bad luck
    and try again, but I'd also like to hear others' opinion.

    Thanks, Eric

    [1]
    http://qa.debian.org/__developer.php?login=deb%__40zorglub.s.bawue.de <http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=deb%40zorglub.s.bawue.de>
    [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-__bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622960
    <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622960>


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