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Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM



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Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> writes:

> Hopefully the gcj 3.4 release will be able to run Eclipse interpreted
> through gij out of the box (that is not very fast, but not as slow as
> you would think). That doesn't solve the build issue though. It is a
> bit frustrating that we have all this working with CVS versions and
> special branches of the various projects. I understand perfectly well
> that you cannot package such a hodgepodge for Debian. Hope you weren't
> offended by my teasing that Red Hat gets it, but Debian doesn't. They
> do take a couple of short cuts at the moment which aren't appropriate
> in the long run, especially not for Debian.

Well, we have to be patient. We have to keep in mind that Debian does
not pay no developper as Red Hat does. If Red Hat is willing to give the
work back to the community (I hope they'll do), the demo was really
good. If the promises will never be available it would be *very*
frustrating.

But I can understand Red Hat spending a lot of money to finish awt and
swing (I heard this, is it true?), they maybe want to be the first
distribution to provide a complete free java alternative. Debian does
not have this problem. I'd be really happy if we can provide a complete
free java alternative six month later (it would be no problem for
me!)... but I hope it'll take less time ;-) (and it'll be available for
the community).

Thanks for your presentation and for your work Mark,

Cheers,

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