Re: newer jikes may never get to testing (and thus stable)
Hi Matt,
--- Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 11:11:06AM -0700, Dalibor Topic wrote:
>
> > > I used to be very busy/without net during last months but I am back.
> > > And attacking ;-)
> > >
> > > The problem is that currently jikes (in the sense of source package,
> > > which is important from testing migration scripts POV) depends of
> > > a whole pile of packages. Just take a look:
> > > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?excuse=jikes
> > >
> > > The problem is that jikes privides wrappers which depend on every
> > > possible JVM in Debian. So for ex. if *ANY* of them won't make it
> > > into testing - we won't have jikes in testing and thus in stable! [0]
> > >
> > > Probably the proper fix for that would be that creation of wrappers
> > > should be only up to JVM/classpath maintainers and be done by them,
> > > probably in their JVM/classpath packages.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be better to provide the wrappers as separate jikes-on-xyz
> > packages, that would depend on both jikes and the VM/classpath package?
>
> Er...this is exactly what jikes does.
>
> mizar:[~] apt-cache show jikes-{kaffe,gij,sablevm,classpath} |grep Depends
> Depends: jikes, kaffe, java-common
> Depends: jikes, libgcj4 | libgcj3 | libgcj2, java-common
> Depends: jikes, sablevm (>=1.0.5-1), java-common
> Depends: jikes, classpath, java-common
>
> > jikes could depend on any one of the wrapper packages being installed, if
> > that's possible with debian's dependency system.
>
> Jikes doesn't need to depend on any of them because it can be used on its
> own.
>
> What you are missing is that Debian binary packages must stay in sync with
> their source package, which means that all of the packages that jikes builds
> are handled as a group for release purposes.
>
> If this is causing a problem, the obvious solution is to move the jikes-*
> packages into separate source packages to allow them to be handled
> separately from jikes itself.
thanks for quickly clearing up my mistakes!
cheers,
dalibor topic
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