W liście z pon, 12-08-2002, godz. 18:13, Adam Heath pisze: > Er, you say free, but are restricting me to only use what is listed in the > depends. I am not really restricting you to anything. You're free to create your own java devel environment. It's all free software and I can't really make any pressure on you (than just to give you something useful). > So, you keep extending the depends, to include alternatives for all free java No. I don't plan to extend Depends. > programs. You are still restricting, because I may want to use part free, > part non-free. Yes, you can. And I am not restricting you to anything. You're free to for ex. copy mine /usr/lib/fjsdk tree to your home and alter it to your needs. If there will be some serious/common reason of altering it - then why not incorporate it in free-java-sdk? It is not meant to be "alternatives for Java" package. The idea is different. Idea is to give developer - coherent - complete, - working, - free, - compatible, - integrated development evironmet (wow!) And I take the responsibility that these tools will work (I don't say that I will not _change_ depends - when some other tools are proven to perform better). I create wrappers where needed. I work out the incompatiblities where wrappers are not enough, etc... By creating such package I kinda promise to keep this suit full of good, free tools. > In summary, while the idea of this package sounds good, I don't think it can > ever really be useful. Oh yes. It is best how it is now. Every developer loves to spend hours trying different combinations of tools just to find out a working one. Been there - done that. No thanks. Let's say it different. If $developer has time and motivation to try his own suit that works for his packages - that's fine, he's free to do it. But if $developer wants things to 'just work' - he should first try this package. I hope we soon see new common kind of bugs claiming "$package should be build with free tools and moved to main" tagged 'patch'. That's won't happen just by itself and it won't happen tomorrow. But that's THE direction - don't you think? Best regards Grzegorz B. Prokopski PS: I forgot to mention in the original report - Depend: fastjar - gives us 'jar' tool. PSS: I am Cc:ing d-java this time. The original report can be read at http://bugs.debian.org/156407 (of course)
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