Re: Summary of the id?as.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 02:08:03PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:03:50AM +1000, Jeff Turner wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 02:44:00PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > > To discuss:
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > * Should we allow library packages to provide different versions?
> > > Like libxalan2 that provides both xalan1 and xalan2 jars.
> > > * Should there be a script that automaticly fixes the symbolic
> > > links in the /usr/share/java directory.
> > > * Must programs also place their files in /usr/share/java.
> >
> > I'd have thought program-specific jars are by definition, not shared,
> > and therefore do not belong on /usr/share?
>
> /usr/share is for files that can be shared among machines (of different
> architectures), not necessarily for files that can be shared among
> programs.
>
> I can imagine some packagers preferring to put .jar files that only they
> care about into /usr/share/<package> rather than /usr/share/java,
> though, to keep the namespace clean.
That is true. So it should say should and not must. :)
> > > Default classpath:
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > > * This discusses the default classpath, except the classpath that
> > > are needed by the jvm. Should there be any such thing?
> >
> > Or rather, *can* any such thing exist without:
> >
> > - breaking non-packaged programs which assume a clean classpath.
> > - upsetting a lot of developers who like to make a clean-classpath
> > assumption. I think most Apache coders fall into this category,
> > because most (all?) Apache projects ignore the classpath, and use an
> > Ant properties file to find jars. Perhaps other Apache people <waves
> > to Marcus Crafter> can confirm/deny this.
>
> I think there's got to be some kind of default classpath, even if it can
> be overridden, otherwise programs without a startup script require the
> user to set an environment variable before they can be used (see Debian
> policy 10.9: "A program must not depend on environment variables to get
> reasonable defaults").
Well the java policy says that all java programs must have a startup
script.
Regards,
// Ola
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