Hey, does anyone know where these messages are coming from? ***********************************************************23** They show up when I run java3d programs. I think each rendered frame gets one of these lines. I am using Blackdown's Java3D port, with xf86 4.0.1-1, and GLX works. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. :) -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.''