Re: japanese environment problems
Hello all,
I remember doing basic various Japanese input in a
terminal with a hamm/slink system and just playing
with a few settings. That was almost two years ago,
and I used only slink stable with a few debian/jp
programs. Now, with the standard distribution and kon,
you should be able to use some nice, simple programs
in console mode. How about jed-canna? That's bigger
than vi, but the debian packages work very nicely. I
would also reccommend that you have a separate user on
your machine to use for just trying out different
apps, because they do change a bit from version to
version, and it's easier to play with different
configurations if you're not worried about making it
unusable. Now my basic system consists of all stable
potato, and I do use emacs (usually mule) with mew/im
for mail. Works like a charm. Good luck,
Jim
--- Tomohiro KUBOTA <tkubota@riken.go.jp> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:35:28 +0900,
> JC Helary <helary@niji.or.jp> wrote:
>
> > i recently decided to do my best at setting up a
> japanese environment for my
> > debian console. i work with debian 2.1 (the 2cd
> set published a while ago in
> > linux japan).
>
> Please tell me which version of user-ja you are
> using. And, please
> tell me which shell you are using. (user-ja
> supports bash and tcsh
> only. No support for zsh and so on.)
>
> > as a mutt user i find it painful to read the few
> japanese mails i get through
> > the [mail] command under kon, is there a way out
> of this ? plus [mail] does not
> > seem to accept ^o or ^\ as japanese input method
> toggling. am i wrong
> > somewhere ?
>
> In general, inputing Japanese under non-X
> environment is difficult.
> There are no generic way. (Thus you need
> canna-supported vi.)
> (One generic way is to use skkfep package but it
> doesn't support canna.)
> Sorry I don't use mutt and I don't understand how to
> input Japanese
> for mutt.
>
> > mutt and lynx seem to have the same problem : i
> had lynx before, i shifted to
> > lynx-ja, but under kon all the accentuated french
> turns into mojibake... i
> > did not install mutt-ja (?) for fear of what would
> happen to my french mails
> > :-) do i have to constantly shift in and out of
> kon to get something out of
> > both applications ? are there smarter applications
> that respect the text
> > encoding on the debian market or did i miss
> something in the configuration ?
>
> You may want to study about character encoding and
> then you will
> understand displaying both French (accented
> alphabets) and Japanese
> is impossible unless using ISO-2022 or UTF-8.
>
> You can use jfbterm instead of kon. It is an
> ISO-2022-based
> internationalized terminal like kon using frame
> buffer of Linux
> kernel 2.2. You can use emacs (version 20 or after)
> and have
>
> (set-terminal-coding-system 'iso-2022-7bit)
>
> in your ~/.emacs file. Then please use a mailer on
> emacs which
> understands "content-type: text/plain; charset=????"
> line. You
> will also have to configure jfbterm to use both
> JIS-X-0208 and
> ISO-8859-1 X fonts.
>
> I don't know about UTF-8-based internationalized
> terminal which
> support Japanese. (You know, unicode_start in
> console-tools
> package doesn't support Japanese.)
>
> ---
> Tomohiro KUBOTA <kubota@debian.org>
> http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/
> "Introduction to I18N"
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/
>
>
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