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Re: NEVER USE SORBS



On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:28:56AM -0400, Chris Wagner wrote:
> At 07:51 AM 7/27/2006 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > that would be good....but it will only happen if people who think they
> > have a right to access other people's mail servers whenever they want,
> > even against the owners' wishes, will stop whining.
> 
> The presumption of public access vs. the presumption of privacy.  There is
> the presumption of permission to enter when u go to a shopping mall.  There
> is the presumption of permission to go up to somebody's front door.  There
> is not the presumption of permission to walk into somebody's living room.
> It goes to the publicly understood purpose.  The purpose of a shopping mall
> is to sell things to the public.  Nobody has to "find out" if they're
> allowed into a mall before they go.  Vice versa with ur living room.  The
> same principles apply to mail servers.  Sure every admin has the right to
> assert non publicness.  But the presumption of publicness remains.  So when
> two people with different assumptions collide, it creates a problem which
> spreads out.  Sure we have the right to do a lot of things.  Including not
> thinking of others.  It's frustrating the system.  

And this is particularly relevant in the case where the mail server
using SORBS is not that of a business or a private individual, but
that of an ISP providing a service whereby members of the public can
communicate with other members of the public using email.

-- 
Pigeon

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