Re: NEVER USE SORBS
At 07:51 AM 7/27/2006 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>an elevator is a shared space. a
Ur exactly right. And so too the Internet is a shared space where whatever
one person does can have far reaching implications. One person doing
something lazy/wrong/boneheaded/whatever can cause grief for somebody else
who otherwise would have nothing to do with that person. (ref: how do i
explain ttl and rdns to the end luser) It comes down to thinking about the
other guy.
>mail server is private property and the owner/admin has every right to
>restrict access using whatever criteria they like.
Strictly true but not real world. Publicness is the defining characteristic
of the Internet that makes it work.
>that would be good....but it will only happen if people who think they
>have a right to access other people's mail servers whenever they want,
>even against the owners' wishes, will stop whining.
The presumption of public access vs. the presumption of privacy. There is
the presumption of permission to enter when u go to a shopping mall. There
is the presumption of permission to go up to somebody's front door. There
is not the presumption of permission to walk into somebody's living room.
It goes to the publicly understood purpose. The purpose of a shopping mall
is to sell things to the public. Nobody has to "find out" if they're
allowed into a mall before they go. Vice versa with ur living room. The
same principles apply to mail servers. Sure every admin has the right to
assert non publicness. But the presumption of publicness remains. So when
two people with different assumptions collide, it creates a problem which
spreads out. Sure we have the right to do a lot of things. Including not
thinking of others. It's frustrating the system.
SORBS has the right to do whatever dumb thing it wants but they ignore the
consequences. By putting their stuff out there they're baiting trouble.
They know people who don't know what they're doing are going to use that and
cause trouble. Then even more people will get involved and start flame
wars. etc etc. SORBS is just irresponsible. That's what it all comes down
to irrespective of rights.
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