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Re: Defining ISP?

yep shift, is what i've done. I've been playing with apt-get and apt-cache in order to discover all minimal dependencies por a serie of packages. 

My procedure is the following:

1. NetInstall or Minimal install using CD1 from Woody
2. Minimal Config
3. Change apt-sources, changing "stable" for "sarge"
3. apt-get update
4. apt-get distro-upgrade
At this step my system is converted from 3.0 Woody to 3.1 Sarge. Starting from sarge now i star the installation of groups of packages.
Suppouse that i want to install in a unique box a web, smtp, pop3, imap4, ftp, database and dns server.
I have the same config files as servers i want to install. I have in a file the list of packages for server needed. From console i launch a batch process calling those files. In about 15' i have a whole system installed.
About the configuration, of course, i have done the config once and then i only copy files from a repository and fix some permission issues on files, but all documented fine. 

This is my way!

BR,


jonathan




shift wrote:


Well, it seems to be the best method. But isn't it possible to define a
general list of necessary packages used by ISPs and regroup the whole in a
minimalistic optimized distribution specificly made for ISP use? And
excluding all other packages (desktop, non-necessary libraries, windowing
etc...).
It's even possible to integrate some optimization tools (apt-build) and
automatize some installation jobs
At my actual knowledge, such a distribution doesn't exist. Should it be
interesting or is it only the remanent effects of a very good long week-end?
:)


BR

shift
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan G - Mailing Lists" <email-lists@surestorm.com> 
To: <debian-isp@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Defining ISP?




Hi,

what i used to do is install a base system and then install some of the
package packs i've defined.

For example, if what i want is install a web server with php % perl
support i use a config file what i've defined myself which contains this:


apt-get install apache2-common apache2-mpm-prefork
libapache2-mod-auth-mysql libapache2-mod-perl2 php4-common
libmailtools-perl libhtml-format-perl bzip2 file libio-socket-ssl-perl
ca-certificates libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql php4-pear


For the rest of services exactly the same. I'v defined manually the
whole list of packages needed for web server, ftp server, irc server,
mail server (smtp, pop and imap), antivirus server, etc...

If you can build a local mirror of you version of debian, i.e. sarge,
you can do local network installations, and your installs will be so fast.

That work fine for me at least :)

BR,

jonathan






Christian Hammers wrote:



On 2004-09-14 shift wrote:



Thinking maybe of a an ISP specific install. Lighter and even more
secure. A minimalistic distribution...



Most ISP will probably have different servers for the different services


and on each of them they will start with a secure base install with as few
software installed as possible and then just install apache/postfix/proftpd
whatever they need and customize it.


I don't see a big bonus in a special ISP distribution. A better


integration of iptables firewalls, vlans or traffic shapers would be nice
but that's nothing ISP specific.


bye,

-christian-

P.S.: pbuilder is a nice tool to build minimal installations that you


can just untar onto a new harddisk



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