> by the way, won't leaving only "console" in /etc/securetty disallow > remote root logins? i did it and my box still accepts remote root > logins. any ideas why? I don't know why that doesn't work but if you want to totally disable ssh login for root put "PermitRootLogin no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Later, Dale -- Dale E. Martin, Clifton Labs, Inc. Senior Computer Engineer dmartin@cliftonlabs.com http://www.cliftonlabs.com pgp key available