Re: Woody Stable and Kernel 2.4.21
Jason Lim wrote:
>
> Hi Eduard,
>
> > > Nowadays, many motherboards have built-in ethernet ports. The most
> > > common seem to be either the SiS chipset (SIS900) or Intel's one
> > > (don't know what model number... but i think eepro or something?)
> > >
> > > Realtek is the most common PCI one... virtually all cheap PCI LAN
> > > cards have Realtek chipsets.
> >
> > All mentioned cards are supported by the bf2.4 kernel or will be
> > supported by the next generations of boot-floppies. What is your
> > problem? The broadcom things are not supported just because
> the stupid
> > drivers are not part of the normal vanilla kernel.
AFAIR Realtek support is compiled into bf24.
>
> Never heard of "broadcom" on a motherboard... never used
> one... never seen
> one... so no complaints from me. I just hope the boot
> floppies in the next
> stable version will support these very common chipsets,
> because i remember
> when installing the current stable, it is a headache.
>
Me too (tm). Never heard/used broadcom. If space permits, I would also like
to see the e100 and 3c59x drivers compiled into bf24.
I'd rather have some kind of bootable ISO where one could manually load
modules from, instead of using an ext2 floppy. I got around that on some
weird system by creating a ramdisk, extract drivers.tgz from the cd, and
load the module manually, but that sux.
Anyway, the sarge installer isn't nearly as comfortable as woody's. I tried
it 2 times, because all my systems run sarge now. Haven't found some nice
how-to to build my own basedebs-iso (I'd like to build one with the woddy
installer, but for installing a basic sarge)...
> > > Not THAT many.
> > >
> > > Actually, I like the way Redhat does it. IMHO Redhat has
> > > one of the best
> > > installation "procedures" going. With the 3ware card installed, it
> > > automatically loads up the 3wxxxx.o (i think that's what it's
> > > called?).
AFAIR the sarge installer has some nice hardware detection module. Didn't
try it on some weird/unusual/pro hardware though.
> >
> > bf2.4 loads the 3ware driver. Some exotic controllers are
> > only supported
> > if you insert a module-preload disk with scsi drivers and load them
> > manually. There is no good way to fix it, we cannot include
> > every driver on _one_ floppy.
I had no problems installing woody on a 3ware 7400 controller-based system.
> Perhaps have "the one" floppy detect what is needed, and then
> direct the
> user to either download/insert the other relevent driver disk?
Who needs disks nowadays, anyway? Each and every system one may buy today
either has a CD-/DVD-ROM drive to boot from, or you can plug one temporarily
for installation.
>
> Bah, you guys know more about this stuff. I'm just a sysadmin that uses
> it... so not sure if it is even possible... or advantageous, to have a
> "detection" thing tell the user to download a certain driver
> to a disk.
> maybe the detection routines would be too long/big/complicated? I think
> there is a hardware detection project already?
>
Try a recent copy of the sarge installer. Not nearly finished, but enough to
get the idea.
Thomas
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