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Re: Debian on Sparc



Ok my first statement was based on the present netra line and not the original models.  My
exposure to sun did not come about until 4 years ago, so the hypersparc, microsparc sparcI
based systems are fairly new/old to me.    The netra line from Sun now only uses the SME
Ultra Sparc II and not the ross/fijitsu clones.   The older systems from what I gather are
not NEBS certified so the use of a clone CPU is allowed.        I guess I am more interested
in the newer horsepower with dual/quad ultra sparcII's/III's, not saying that there is
anything wrong with the older models in question.   My bad for the lack of clarification in
my initial statement.

Regards,
Mike

Marco Colombo wrote:

> On 17 Dec 1999, Francois Deppierraz wrote:
>
> > Date: 17 Dec 1999 17:29:07 GMT
> > From: Francois Deppierraz <francois@ctrlaltdel.ch>
> > To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Debian on Sparc
> > Newsgroups: ml.debian.isp
> > Resent-Date: 17 Dec 1999 17:28:35 -0000
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> > mc@ainsystems.com wrote:
> > > Sun Netra's don't use fujitsu processors.   They use Sun Micro Electronic's CPU's in
> > > the systems.  The netra xxxx models are their flag ship fault tollerant product
> > > intended for NEBS environments.  I doubt the system would receive NEBS bellcore
> > > certification with unreliable components.    Buying a netra with fujitsu CPU's is
> > > like purchasing an intel motherboard with an Athlon on it.
> >
> > I have one of the only Sun Netra which is built on a Fujitsu proc :(
> >
>
> My 'Netra i' says:
> # cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep cpu
> cpu             : Fujitsu  MB86904
>
> which runs at 110Mhz. It'a MicroSparcII compatible, AFAIK.
>
> I've got also a SparcStation 4, running Solaris. and:
> # dmesg | fgrep cpu0
> cpu0: FMI,MB86904 (mid 0 impl 0x0 ver 0x4 clock 70 MHz)
>
> It's the same CPU, at lower clock. The SparcStation 4 was bought directly
> from Sun.
>
> The 'Netra i' runs a RHL6.0 happily (their 2.2.5-22 kernel).
>
> Comparison to modern Intel systems in unfair, this is 7 years older
> technology. Used with the built-in 10base-T eth, they are good servers
> for such a bandwidth (expecially a 170Mhz SS20). Based on my limited
> experience, they react almost linearly to lignt and moderated loads
> (2-10 clients). Modern Intel-based (low-end) systems are definitely faster
> but do not show a linear degradation as the load increases. On 100Mbps
> Ethernet, you should go for a Intel based server-class system.
>
> .TM.
>
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