Re: Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 16:46:35 +0900, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote:
> As mentioned in Bug #984875, gnome-initial-setup's default choice of
> input method is hardcoded in the dependent libgnome-desktop-4-2 package.
> The Japanese one is anthy
> https://sources.debian.org/src/gnome-desktop/43.1-1/libgnome-desktop/default-input-sources.h/#L39
> preferred by upstream (Fedora/Red Hat) perhaps because its code base is
> simple and easy to maintain, while this is not suitable for most Debian
> Japanese users, who use mozc because of its better conversion quality,
> thus task-japanese-gnome-desktop and task-japanese-desktop has preferred
> mozc over anthy. So the hardcoded value should be adjusted for our
> users.
Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc is
a better default for all Japanese speakers, including new users who are
not familiar with GNOME or Debian?
I want to avoid changing this from anthy to mozc-jp, and then getting a
second bug report from a different Japanese user saying that we need to
change it back!
Looking at #984875 and #983653, I also see a mention of mozc only being
available on certain architectures: it's available on x86, ARM and riscv64,
but not on mips*el, ppc64el or s390x.
How does this interact with the default being mozc-jp? Do we need to use
a #ifdef to make the default be mozc on architectures that have it, and
anthy on architectures that don't?
I'm also concerned that mozc still depends on GTK 2 (a switch to GTK
3 was tried and then reverted, see #967641). This is OK for bookworm,
but will probably not be supportable in Debian 13.
> Upstream prefers ibus-anthy for Japanese input
Please talk to upstream about this: if mozc is a better default for Debian,
then it's probably also a better default for upstream.
The only issue reports I could find upstream are
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/-/issues/181 which is about
switching the default from kkc to anthy, and
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-initial-setup/-/issues/104 which is
older and refers to kkc as being the default.
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 at 15:09:15 +0900, kenhys@xdump.org wrote:
> Thus with attached patch, gnome-initial-setup will not
> show label for mozc-jp as "日本語 (Mozc)" by default.
What would be the best label to be displayed there?
What is actually displayed instead?
> To display label correctly, fetch_ibus_engines_result must be called
> in advance.
That's probably not possible: fetch_ibus_engines_result is called
asynchronously with the result of a D-Bus method call, so it's already
called as early as possible, and before that point we don't have the
necessary information.
Probably the best we can do there is to hard-code a special case for
mozc-jp.
smcv
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