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Re: Hurd advocacy?



Please let me drop a pair of comments; hope i'm not being pedantic!

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 02:29:32PM +0100, Mark Wilkinson wrote:
> When it comes to getting people involved my main concern would be the 
> current lack of awareness of Hurd in wider circles.  As I mentioned 
> previously, if Linux Format hadn't devoted two pages to it in one of 
> their issues, I'd still have never heard of it.  As it is, I've been 
> impressed enough to send Amazon money in return for:

Amazon has made the most agressive use of software patents by patenting
electronic commerce and actualy suing other people practicing it. The
FSF called for boicott, see:

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html

> Operating Systems: Design and Implementation
> Andrew S. Tanenbaum

Nice, next month was going to read that one.

> Code Reading: The Open Source Perspective
> Diomidis Spinellis

Ugh, because we seek freedom, we don't believe in "Open Source" philosophy:

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html

If you want a good book describing the free software philosophy, I recommend
"Free Software, Free Society" a recopilation of RMS' eassays from
www.gnu.org site (see http://www.gnu.org/doc/book13.html)

> Why another O/S? - Explain the differences in design between Windows, Linux 
> and Hurd, and why Hurd is doing things the way it is. 

That's not the question the project faced in 1991, the Hurd was already started
and was planned since 1984 anyway as a component of the GNU operating system.
(yes, the Hurd actualy was started _before_ the kernel Linux)

> Where can I download Hurd? -  How do I install Hurd?

You're confusing terms. The correct answers to this questions are:

  - from CVS (CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs@subversions.gnu.org:/cvsroot/hurd)
  - ./configure && make && make install

If you refer to the whole system (Mach,Hurd,Glibc,Bash,Coreutils..), use
GNU or GNU/Hurd. And for the Debian distribution, Debian GNU/Hurd.

-- 
Robert Millan

"[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."

 -- J.R.R.T, Ainulindale (Silmarillion)



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