Re: Hurd Advocacy?
Shawn Boyette <mdxi@collapsar.net> writes:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 02:43:21PM -0700, deFreese, Barry wrote:
>
> > 6. Kernel issues. GNUMach 1.x is antiquated, slow, and has issues. Very
> > few (if any) are working on GNUMach 2.x (oskit-mach) and it has issues, and
> > L4 isn't ready and probably won't be for quite some time.
>
> > 8. Direction. (And I am probably going to get blasted for this). This
> > somewhat ties into number 6 also. There seems to be lacking clear direction
> > from the on high of where Hurd needs to be. I realize that there are few
> > developers in the upper echelon of the Hurd but I don't see a clear figure
> > head. Linux had Linus as the spokesperson/figurehead. Hell even if Linus
> > never contributed a line of code after kicking it off there was
> > someone/something to rally around. I don't hear a voice for the Hurd. I
> > realize that this is an open source project and you cannot "make" anyone do
> > specific tasks. However, I believe that if there were some clear directions
> > laid out for the Hurd, it may gain some developers. That is merely
> > speculation on my part. Maybe the thing to do at the moment is somewhat
> > freeze development to a degree. Concentrate what few resources you have on
> > getting to L4 and then state some clear direction. Fix ext2fs next, work on
> > X, etc. etc.
>
> This is exactly the conclusion I reached a few days ago when I read
> about L4 through Debian Weekly News. I keep wanting to play with the
> HURD, but it keeps on not existing. This is almost farsical,
> announcing a switch to a new kernel architecture (which, I might add,
> is already deprecated by its developers -- Pistachio is the current
> branch of L4Ka, not Hazelnut) before the previous new kernel
> architecture (OSKit) migration is even completed.
L4-Hurd will run on Pistachio. I think the person who wrote the
article (or whatever it was) made a mistake.
> Is this a project to produce a kernel for a GNU OS, or is it some sort
> of never-ending, ivory tower, trans-academic wankfest for kernel
> geeks? Can you imagine where GNU would be if gcc and emacs had been
> produced this way?
I don't agree with the image you create. The Hurd is not an ivory
tower.
--
Marco
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