Re: Please forward this to appropriate people!!
I will explain the original message for the sake of the younger folks.
Never, EVER hack into somebody else's system if someone asks you to, either
directly or (as in this case) indirectly. They are placing you in severe
jeopardy! The best case scenario is they are asking you to do something
illegal. Other scenarios include them SETTING YOU UP for something worse.
TRUST NO ONE WHO ASKS YOU TO HACK INTO ANOTHER SYSTEM! There are no white
hats only people asking for a whole lot of trouble. I consider my original
reply to be quite appropriate for the message sent, which I consider to be
totally inappropriate. I have no problem backing off inappropriate and
dysfunctional behavior. I find backing off dysfuctional behavior in a
friendly way rarely works. Save your chastisement for the rubes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brent Fulgham" <brent.fulgham@xpsystems.com>
To: <debian-hurd@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: Please forward this to appropriate people!!
> > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 09:45:39AM -0700, Jim Franklin wrote:
> > > > if this is concerning a matter other than the hurd
> > > > operating system then stop wasting my time with your
> > > > whining and learn to do your own dirty work
> > >
>
> [ Marcus]
> > > Insulting people who need help is really very kind of you.
> > >
> > > Your response is only adding to the problem. I mailed Paula some
> > > explanations about spam and what she can do about it. You
> > > don't want to give her the impression that Hurd hackers are
> > > unfriendly, do you?
> > >
>
> [Jim Again]
> > I find my time to be quite valuable to me, thanks for wasting
> > some more of
> > it.
> >
>
> You yourself waste your own "valuable" time by sending these nasty
> messages. But then, I suppose we're now entering a recursive time
> wasting vortex, in which you will helpfully point out each instance
> of "time-wasting" mail, thus wasting your own time, which will
> prompt me to point out that you multiplied your wasted time by
> a factor of 2*(some constant factor) based on the time it takes
> you to:
>
> 1. Read the offending message
> 2. Formulate the opinion that your time was wasted. I assume
> you use some kind of weighted statistic to gauge the amount
> of wasted time, and the level of ire it generates.
> 3. Forumlate a suitably scathing article with which to respond.
> 4. Type the nasty response.
> 5. Send the nasty response (hopefully editing out CC's to people
> subscribed to the list.)
>
> Perhaps if you just kept your opinion to yourself, you could then
> save steps 3-5, saving yourself nearly 3/5'ths of the time you
> have had wasted! You must admit, this is clearly a very good
> savings.
>
> Here's to cutting out steps 3, 4, and 5. Hooray!
>
> Regards,
>
> -Brent
>
>
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