thanks to all that provided info/scripts on getting sources. i am setting networking up as follows: settrans -fg /servers/socket/2 /hurd/pfinet --interface=eth0 address=10.0.0.5 --gateway=10.0.0.1 --netmask=255.0.0.0 when i 'ping 10.0.0.1' i get a socket : translator died message, and occasionally, when i attempt to ftp a: 'eth0: media is TP' message. the kernel is detecting my standard ethernet card, so i don't think it's a hardware problem. any advice?