> > (BTW i created an apache patch for 1.3.11 to compile under HURD, and will > > email it upon request.; I am also going to start recoding thelogin, > > because i feel its a big security rsik, waiting to happen =) ) Whoever wrote this, can you please clarify what you mean by the comment about "thelogin"? If you mean the login shell, you should probably not work on login but on chmod and associated tools to allow to set the fourth permission set. Marcus