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Re: Bug#482902: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 01:17:06AM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:21:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >> that's fine. in this case we should drop support for hppa for lenny.
> >
> > Probably a good idea.  I don't think anyone's doing much work with hppa
> > and Debian any more.
> I kind of resent that affirmation.

Sometimes the truth hurts, I guess.

> Not even questioning its grounds, I'm sure we don't decide to evict an
> architecture simply based on doubt, and uncertainty? hppa doesn't have
> any major flaw we're aware of, it has porters dedicated to maintaining
> it and it keeps up with the archive (99.9% of lenny is built on
> hppa[0]).

Does it really have porters dedicated to maintaining it?


The Debian port is maintained by the following developers, who actively
work on architecture specific issues:

   1.  KyleMcMartin
   2.  ThibautVarene
   3. ...
   4. ...
   5. ... 

I have a fairly good idea what Kyle's been doing recently.  What have
you done for the hppa port recently?  Does anybody else intend to step
up to be porter 3, 4 and 5?

The developer machines have been unavailable for months, so Debian
developers who don't have their own hppa machine are unable to work on
their own packages or fix bugs.

> I'll just assume this was the expression of your personal opinion, and
> I'll state mine which is pretty much opposed to what you suggest. In
> the end I'm sure any decision will be taken based on facts, which is
> fine with me.

What is needed here is not some Descartian dialect designed to separate
truth from falsehood, but people putting in some work.  The port has
been coasting for several years now and things are gradually rotting.
Do we put a stake in the corpse now, or make an effort to fix some bugs?

Intel are signing my paycheques ... these opinions are still mine
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours.  We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."

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