Re: Hamradio packages in various menus
Greetings,
On Monday, 27 January 2025 14:31:21 GMT-4 Chris Reich wrote:
> Greetings everyone,I use only xfce and all the fldigi family of
> packages fall neatly into the 'ham radio' entry of the main menu. The
> 'ham radio' entry is added automatically upon installing fldigi in my
> experience. Should not ALL ham radio packages also fall under the
> 'ham radio' entry of the main menu? Forgive me if I fail to see a
> larger picture, I'm new at this.Chris Reich; Rochester, New York
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2025 at 10:06:35 AM EST, MJ Inabnit
> <ke6sls@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings Hibby,
>
> Thank you for your interest. This has been something that annoys me
> as well, and a mess it does make.
>
> I would vote to keep and use extra-xdg-menus.
>
> Good luck and 73
>
> Jaye
>
I can only vouch for KDE on Debian Sid and on Kubuntu 24 LTS
where the "Ham Radio" menu entry disappeared during some upgrade. Then
hamradio entries splattered all over the place into entries like
'Internet', Education', Science and Mathematics', 'Utilities' etc.
After I reintroduced "Ham Radio" into the menu again most of the
hamradio applications reappeared in the same menu automagically but
copies of all entries still were residing all over the place.
I reordered and deleted double entries, also made submenus under 'Ham
Radio' for CW, Digital, Logging, SDR, Propagation etc and rearranged
everything.
Now I fear that all this work will be brought to nought by the next KDE
update(s). We'll see ...
73 de Eike
> On 1/26/25 4:09 PM, Dave Hibberd wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I noticed a while back that if we install all the blends packages it
> > makes menus as bit of a mess [1].
> >
> > There are other menus touched, too, Internet is just an example -
> > sound and video gets things like wsjt-x, freedv and js8call.
> >
> > Before I go filing bugs (and patches), I wanted to check in and see
> > if anyone else had strong opinions on cleaning this up before the
> > next release. It doesn't really impact Gnome users, but lxde, kde
> > and others are affected.
> >
> > As there's talk and progress of blends being in the installer[2] I
> > think it's worth a look.
> >
> > Freedesktop Desktop Categories [2] has good guidance on where things
> > should go and reading it, I see two paths:
> > 1) Making sure that everything falls under Education and/or Science,
> > and also Utilities. Critically, I don't think anything hamradio
> > falls under Audiovideo/ audio/video.
> > 2) Sticking everything under Hamradio, counted as an Additional
> > Category in freedesktop and adding extra-xdg-menus as a dependency.
> > This implements both the hamradio and electronics menu.
> > Alternatively we could merge bits of that into hamradio-files?
> >
> > I think 2) is a nice to-have for vanity reasons but isn't very
> > friendly to other distros/upstreams who might not have that menu,
> > so it should only be a secondary category after options in 1).
> >
> > If no one has any objections, I'll start filing bugs to that effect
> > soon, I have a few days in a hotel this week that might afford me
> > the time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Hibby
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Eike Lantzsch KY4PZ / ZP5CGE
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