I see, when I read the NOTES section of the ifup man page I realise that ifup has to use the interfaces stuff to call ifconfig or route ... so it needs to know what ifconfig will accept as a parameter/argument - hmmm .... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-hams-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org