Re: GNOME 3.8 in unstable?
Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> Le 08/09/2013 10:47, Osamu Aoki a écrit :
>
>>>> Or is there any principal reason not to update the remaining portions
>>>> of the GNOME desktop in Debian?
>>>
>>> I tried ; this is currently very difficult, because systemd is quite
>>> intricated with gnome-shell. Switching everything at the same time (a
>>> new xserver-xorg-core was installed, but without any video driver) broke
>>> all of my system.
>>
>> Anyway, with classic init in place, GNOME 3.8 seems to be working fine
>> here.
>
> Right now, it is uninstallable, and I can't manage to get apt to tell me
The gnome metapackages are unstallable, because they still depend on the
legacy componets, which were dropped in GNOME 3.6 or 3.8, including gnome-
panel, gnome-session-fallback and gnome-applets.
It is not hard to build your own metapackage, which does not depend on these
packages, but I would nevertheless prefer if the devs could provide an
updated version in experimental for all of us.
And I really don't get what is still holding up GNOME 3.8. Some years ago,
it was possible to follow Debian GNOME development by following this mailing
list, but this seems to have died down completely. I tend to be worried that
this indicates how Debian is depleted of manpower thanks to Ubuntu.
Well, for the time being, I am using KDE 4.10 instead, which is complete in
jessie by now and is actually a really cool desktop, once you have gotten
used to it, apart from its considerable appetite for CPU time & memory.
Thanks,
Johannes
> why:
> root# LC_ALL=C apt-get install -t experimental gnome-shell empathy
> nautilus evolution gnome-contacts
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
> cheese cheese-common empathy-common evolution-common
> evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common evolution-plugins
> folks-common gdm3 gir1.2-gdm3 gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0 gir1.2-ibus-1.0
> gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2
> gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-session
> gnome-session-bin gnome-session-common gnome-settings-daemon
> gnome-shell-common gnome-shell-extensions gnome-tweak-tool
> gsettings-desktop-schemas gstreamer1.0-nice libcamel-1.2-43
> libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 libcrack2 libebackend-1.2-6 libebook-1.2-14
> libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libecal-1.2-15
> libedata-book-1.2-17 libedata-cal-1.2-20 libedataserver-1.2-17
> libevolution libfarstream-0.2-2 libfolks-eds25
> libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks25 libgdm1 libgnome-desktop-3-7
> libgtkhtml-4.0-0 libgtkhtml-4.0-common libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0
> libgweather-3-3 libgweather-common libibus-1.0-5 libmutter0b
> libpam-systemd libpwquality-common libpwquality1
> libsystemd-daemon0 libsystemd-journal0 libtelepathy-farstream3
> libtelepathy-logger3 libudev1 libwacom-common libwacom2
> libytnef0 libzeitgeist-1.0-1 mutter-common nautilus-data
> nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto-empathy systemd
> Suggested packages:
> evolution-exchange evolution-plugins-experimental
> evolution-data-server-dbg pidgin gajim systemd-ui
> Recommended packages:
> ntp system-config-printer cracklib-runtime
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> gnome gnome-applets gnome-core gnome-panel gnome-screensaver
> gnome-session-fallback libcheese-gtk21 libcheese3
> libebook-1.2-13 libedata-book-1.2-13 libedataserverui-3.0-1 libmutter0
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> gir1.2-gdm3 gir1.2-ibus-1.0 gstreamer1.0-nice libcamel-1.2-43
> libcheese-gtk23 libcheese7 libcrack2 libebackend-1.2-6
> libebook-1.2-14 libebook-contacts-1.2-0 libecal-1.2-15
> libedata-book-1.2-17 libedata-cal-1.2-20 libedataserver-1.2-17
> libfarstream-0.2-2 libgdm1 libgnome-desktop-3-7 libgweather-3-3
> libibus-1.0-5 libmutter0b libpam-systemd
> libpwquality-common libpwquality1 libsystemd-daemon0
> libsystemd-journal0 libtelepathy-farstream3 libtelepathy-logger3
> libudev1 libytnef0 libzeitgeist-1.0-1 systemd
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> cheese cheese-common empathy empathy-common evolution evolution-common
> evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common
> evolution-plugins folks-common gdm3 gir1.2-gnomedesktop-3.0
> gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2 gnome-contacts
> gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-session
> gnome-session-bin gnome-session-common gnome-settings-daemon
> gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-shell-extensions gnome-tweak-tool
> gsettings-desktop-schemas libevolution
> libfolks-eds25 libfolks-telepathy25 libfolks25 libgtkhtml-4.0-0
> libgtkhtml-4.0-common libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0
> libgweather-common libwacom-common libwacom2 mutter-common nautilus
> nautilus-data nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto-empathy
> 41 upgraded, 31 newly installed, 12 to remove and 461 not upgraded.
> Need to get 18.3 MB/64.6 MB of archives.
> After this operation, 13.9 MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
> Abort.
>
>
> I sincerely would like some means of testing this new gnome-shell, but
> right now its dependencies are too entangled in experimental mess. Maybe
> it's only an updated gnome-core or gnome package that is missing in
> experimental.
>
> Sincerely,
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