Re: galeon (not) in Debian stable
Mark Howard <mh@debian.org> writes:
> The reason Debian is so great and the reason Debian is different to
> other distributions is the quality of its packages. Users can expect to
> install Debian once and then upgrade every couple of years, taking just a
> few minutes of their time. They should then be able to use the system
> pretty much as before - Most importantly, no need to upgrade any
> packages or spend hours configuring things. To make this possible, the
> software we ship has to be stable, well tested and IMHO, complete.
Yes, but galeon is not full of bugs and not usuable. Even if some
features are missing it's pretty stable.
> - Many usability issues reported. I really like galeon; having a broken
> version (wrt usability) in Debian is likely to damage galeon's
> reputation with its current users.
I don't think galeon is heavy broken and will damage its reputation , it
works fine for many people.
>If galeon is not included, current
> users will likely get it from a sarge backport, which could well be
> galeon 2.0 (I sent a message to debian-devel earlier this evening with
> 'experimental' ideas which could make these backports more official)
I think that most of the users will use a browser provided by the
distribution (mozilla, epiphany, ...) and not go to search some backport
elsewhere on the net.
It'll be very damageable for galeon ...
> - I'm releasing cvs snapshots weekly (ish). Every one fixes bugs and
> brings improvements and new features. When do we stop doing this and
> say this version will go into sarge? We cannot release with a cvs
> snapshot from a few weeks before sarge is relased
Stop releasing cvs snapshot in unstable, but 1.3 releases ...
> - General unfinished feel. I think Debian releases should be polished
> products. Galeon currently lacks documentation, has many options
> hidden away, has some big bugs in places (printing crashes a lot for
> me, focus sometimes changes when pages load in background tabs,
> refresh bypassing X options don't work).
Does a browser need a lot of documentation ? You've just to run it and
enter your url ... and galeon's options are simple enought to be used
without documentation.
Some bug are remaining, but not a lot, and not on all systems. Perhaps
the printing can be fix in some weeks ? Focus problems is not a RC bug
...
> - Although less important, we should take note that gnome and red hat
> have not included galeon.
You're taking the choice to kick out galeon for epiphany. Gnome has
never included any browser, and just decided to take epiphany and not
galeon.
I think that debian have not to take any choice and continue to provide
galeon. Kicking galeon will be very bad for it ...
Cheers,
Sebastien Bacher
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