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Re: Bug#154950: Gnome 2 transition



On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 02:43:49PM +0200, Julien Portalier wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:38:48 +0200
> Sven LUTHER <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 10:37:13AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > 
> > Well, but you screw all users with newer cards that need 4.2 to run.
> Yes, but XF4.2 beta packages are working very well on a woody, i just
> installed those on my friend's computer. I didn't had any problem. The
> peoblem is XF4.2 is not in woody, which give the reputation to have
> obsolete software... but in facts, XF4.1 is now multi-arch, and doesn't
> have the PCI bugs found in XF4.2 for example, some friends who have
> multiple video cards have problems with XF4.2 because of this bug. After
> reading the paper from Branden explaining why XF4.2 was not going to be
> in Woody, i knew why i had chosen debian : I have something right which
> works good, even if i don't have the newest release. If i really need
> it, i create the package myself.

Well, the reality is that debian has kind of forked the X developpments,
so there are patches in the debian package, but it takes time if any to
integrate them with upstream/Xfree86, so all the work is to do again
next time that XFree86 does a new release. But then i am not Branden,
and i don't have the time to work on such a big package so i can't but
aprove of the path he choose for X, but this doesn't meant that this can
be used as an excuse for not having working gnome2 in unstable, which is
what started this thread.

Personnally i run a CVS HEAD 4.2.99.x + CVS DRI, as i am
doing driver developpment, so i don't really worry about these things
myself.

> > And also, it seems gnome2 does _not_ run well with 4.1, i had to
> > install the beta package for xlibs 4.2 for it to work.
> What problems do you really have ? I'm running G2D from experimental
> (upgraded manualy every night) on my debian unstable, with XF4.1, and so
> on. I don't seem to have any problems with fonts and those kinds of
> things. But maybe i'm wrong and didn't noticed them :)

Well, it was the Xft bug in 4.1 XRender extension, or so it told me (and
i looked at the suggested gnome BTS url, and was told that 4.2 fixes
this).
I tried disabling the XFT fonts, but with no sucess.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




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