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Re: graphical apt, trials and tribulations



On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 09:23, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:42:37AM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> > 
> > He said Debconf is fine - I'm assuming it's the retarded packages that
> > don't use Debconf that are the problem.  He has a valid point - those
> > should be expressly denied by Debian policy, Lintian should throw a
> > hissy-fit at any package that looks like it prompts w/o Debconf, etc.
> 
> Technically speaking, debconf was only even permitted by policy as of
> earlier this release cycle. It's a bit early to mandate it yet. (And
> lintian is unlikely to be able to spot packages that don't use it at all
> reliably, I should think ...)

Hmm, was unware of the debconf this.  But, early this release cycle...
doesn't that mean 2 years ago?  ~,^

Also, I'd suspect Lintian could easily detect at least the standard
shell commands for user input - things like Exim's running eximconf,
likely not.  But, better than nothing, no?  Lintian isn't made to be
100% failproof,just to really help out (and it does).

> 
> Isn't it possible to pop up a terminal-like widget? It doesn't have to
> be an actual terminal, just something that can display output and accept
> input.

Although I assume Seth can do just this, that's ugly as hell for the
users.  I do not at all want to start up a distro flamewar, but... "all
the other distros don't need terminal windows in their updaters."  This
isn't because the distros can't make use of a terminal, but simply
because making a graphical wrapper around an application that still
needs a terminal to work is pretty pointless.

Now that i think about it, Ximian Red Carpet supporst Debian Potato - I
wonder how they deal with this problem?

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> Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]
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