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Bug#602563: marked as done (tzdata: Tzdata inconsistencies)



Your message dated Mon, 13 Jan 2025 23:09:06 +0000
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and subject line Bug#602563: fixed in tzdata 2024b-6
has caused the Debian Bug report #602563,
regarding tzdata: Tzdata inconsistencies
to be marked as done.

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Package: tzdata
Version: 2010o-1
Severity: minor


I understand that in the United States of America, the preferred way to set the time zone is America/Chicago, or America/Los_Angeles. That's all fine, but what about Puerto Rico? As far as as I know, Puerto Rico is still part of the United States, and San Juan is the largest city in Puerto Rico. Where is America/San_Juan? Maybe the problem is that there is a San Juan in almost every Latin American country. If we decide to go with Region/City, then we have to keep it consistent.

Also, since Puerto Rico is in the United States, and is in the Atlantic time zone, there should be a US/Atlantic time zone.

Another inconsistency. Maybe needs a separate bug report. I see America/Aruba and America/Curacao. Where is America/Bonaire?

Then there is the question of America/Detroit. I travel to the East Coast of the US. Do I pick America/Detroit or America/New_York? What's the difference and how would I know? Should I pick America/Detroit only when I am in Detroit, or when I am in Michigan, or on the East Coast?

I personally think that the whole Region/City is garbage. If I live in Houson, Texas, why do I have to pick Chicago (1000 miles away)? After all, Denver is only 880 miles away. How am I even supposed to know that Chicago is in the Central time zone and not Eastern? I like to old system where I just pick the time zone US/Central, but I am offended that the system now changes it to America/Chicago.

And speaking of America/Denver... Which Denver is it? There are eight Denvers in the United States.

I know that some of this has been discussed in the past. And I know the reply will have something to do with upstream. I feel my complaints are legitimate; although some more than others.

Thanks,

Marc


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tzdata depends on:
ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.36 Debian configuration management sy

tzdata recommends no packages.

tzdata suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  tzdata/Zones/Australia:
* tzdata/Zones/US: Central
  tzdata/Zones/Asia:
* tzdata/Zones/Etc: UTC
* tzdata/Zones/SystemV: AST4
  tzdata/Zones/Arctic:
  tzdata/Zones/Pacific:
  tzdata/Zones/Antarctica:
  tzdata/Zones/Europe:
  tzdata/Zones/Africa:
* tzdata/Zones/America: Chicago
* tzdata/Areas: SystemV
  tzdata/Zones/Atlantic:
  tzdata/Zones/Indian:



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Source: tzdata
Source-Version: 2024b-6
Done: Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
tzdata, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 602563@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> (supplier of updated tzdata package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 23:41:11 +0100
Source: tzdata
Architecture: source
Version: 2024b-6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: GNU Libc Maintainers <debian-glibc@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>
Closes: 498171 602563 848143
Changes:
 tzdata (2024b-6) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Update debconf autopkgtest following the /etc/timezone change
   * Rework README.Debian. Explain how timezone are named, the split between
     the tzdata and tzdata-legacy packages, the difference between the 'posix'
     and 'right' version and the way to configure the timezone either
     interactively and programmatically (with and without systemd).
     (Closes: #498171, #602563, #848143)
   * Add a note in NEWS about the /etc/timezone deprecation
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