On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 07:17:56AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Control: reassign -1 locales > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 05:29:20PM -0400, debianuser2017_ wrote: > > When Debian 9 is installed with the en-us locale selected, the clock defaults > > to 24 hour time in the resulting install. This is odd because the normal means > > of representing the time in the area covered by en-us is to separate the day > > into two 12-hour segments. (localization issue) <snip irrelevant exposition> > Obviously, this is an abuse, but that's the cost of being the default. If > we had C.UTF-8 as a first-class locale, this wouldn't be that much an > argument, but currently d-i falls back to en_US for English for most > countries. > The decision belongs to the maintainer (I'm reassigning), but per the above > reasoning, I expect wontfix. No, this is a nonsense argument. The en_US.UTF-8 locale must reflect the actual usage in the US. "Well, systems use it as a default, so we're going to overload it" would be idiotic. There's also no reason to believe that's actually what has happened here. C.UTF-8 *is* a first-class locale, and if any installers are using en_US.UTF-8 when they should use C.UTF-8, those installers must be fixed. Furthermore, the only bug I'm aware of in this area is the fact that, when no locale is configured in the environment, glibc falls back to C instead of to C.UTF-8, despite the fact that this is shipped prebuilt in the libc package and is always available. As to the actual bug, I don't know if this represents a deliberate change or if it's accidental. Speaking for myself as an American, I can confirm the described behavior... and can say that it completely escaped my notice, because I prefer 24h time whenever given the option. Nevertheless, if this bug is to be deemed 'wontfix', it must be done solely with respect to what is correct for the *US* locale. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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