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Bug#228486: No mention of german quotes in release-notes yet

At Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:24:55 +0000,
Rob Bradford wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Hello,
> >                                    (please CC: me on replies, thanks)
> > I pulled the release notes from
> > http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/en/release-notes.en.sgml?cvsroot=debian-doc
> Fixed. Note, there is no current German translation available.

I disagreed to add such description in the release notes.  Rob, I'm
sorry even you already worked it, but I hope you remove it again.
Could you delete it?

I think the phrase "use UTF-8" is nice, but I concern the following
context will become wrong interpretation in future:

    "The locales for German style languages (e.g. de_DE@euro)
     unfortunately use an aesthetically unpleasing way of representing
     open quotation marks."

I think we have not finished such discussion.  Even some German debian
developers doubt this proposal should be adopted.

Moreover, I doubt why we need to add this issue to the release note.
Helge, could you explain in first?  It's just _one of technical
discussions_ in the whole various technical problems.  If you request
to add this appology, I also would like to request adding other
various glibc related bugs as "apology" (UTF-8 regexp problems,
localedata non-update, mips xgot/fakeroot breakage, LSB 2.0
non-conformance, NPTL pthread_create without setschedparam attr, some
math precisions, and more).

I also think this modification should be changed at upstream level in
first, because it's glibc localedata problem, not debian local
problem.  However, _no_ debian guys try to discuss with the glibc
upstream maintainers.  Note that some primary upstream maintainers
(Ulrich Drepper, et al) can speak German, but they don't agree this
proposal currently.

I also concern this issue because this proposal may be rejected in
future by glibc upstream maintainers.  In that case, debian release
announcement will keep having such wrong description until sarge+1
release.  I, as one of upstream glibc bug db maintainer, think this
patch is doubtly to apply to the glibc localedata.

So, I object to add this uncertain issue to the release note.  Rob,
I'm sorry not to reply this request quickly, but I think we should
remove it from the release announcement.

-- gotom

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