Bug#228486: No mention of german quotes in release-notes yet
At Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:24:55 +0000,
Rob Bradford wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 05:41:41PM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Hello,
> > (please CC: me on replies, thanks)
> > I pulled the release notes from
> > http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/release-notes/en/release-notes.en.sgml?cvsroot=debian-doc
> Fixed. Note, there is no current German translation available.
I disagreed to add such description in the release notes. Rob, I'm
sorry even you already worked it, but I hope you remove it again.
Could you delete it?
I think the phrase "use UTF-8" is nice, but I concern the following
context will become wrong interpretation in future:
"The locales for German style languages (e.g. de_DE@euro)
unfortunately use an aesthetically unpleasing way of representing
open quotation marks."
I think we have not finished such discussion. Even some German debian
developers doubt this proposal should be adopted.
Moreover, I doubt why we need to add this issue to the release note.
Helge, could you explain in first? It's just _one of technical
discussions_ in the whole various technical problems. If you request
to add this appology, I also would like to request adding other
various glibc related bugs as "apology" (UTF-8 regexp problems,
localedata non-update, mips xgot/fakeroot breakage, LSB 2.0
non-conformance, NPTL pthread_create without setschedparam attr, some
math precisions, and more).
I also think this modification should be changed at upstream level in
first, because it's glibc localedata problem, not debian local
problem. However, _no_ debian guys try to discuss with the glibc
upstream maintainers. Note that some primary upstream maintainers
(Ulrich Drepper, et al) can speak German, but they don't agree this
I also concern this issue because this proposal may be rejected in
future by glibc upstream maintainers. In that case, debian release
announcement will keep having such wrong description until sarge+1
release. I, as one of upstream glibc bug db maintainer, think this
patch is doubtly to apply to the glibc localedata.
So, I object to add this uncertain issue to the release note. Rob,
I'm sorry not to reply this request quickly, but I think we should
remove it from the release announcement.