Bug#147148: marked as done (€uro troubles, I mean re-opened as it is NOT fixed)
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> > The fix for bug #130259 has been silently removed, though the bug hasn't been reopend.
> NOT A BUG! Leave it alone. I am not special casing KDE's stupidity, and
> don't even get me started on the "well distribution 'foo' does it" crap.
1. You removed a fix for a problem without re-opening the bug report that
that fix fixed. You didn't give any notice at all, like appending an
explanation to that bug report. This is _NOT_ proper behaviour.
2. If you believe this is not a bug of the locales package, but instead a
bug in KDE, then proper behaviour would be to re-open the bug against
KDE. But since you didn't do that, you seem not to regard it as a bug of
KDE. Thus it is one of locales.
3. This fix is an easy work-around for a hard to fix bug in KDE. It is the
only chance to get something working that needs to work for woody. No,
not woody+1, woody. This is May 2002; the ¤uro is here since 4.5 months.
Which is the reason why this bug is _at least_ important.
4. When I mentioned that that's the way SuSE did it I wanted to show you
that this is not some stupid user's argument, but something that makes
sense to experienced developers. You're not behaving like one right now.
5. By neglecting this issue, you're being arrogant to _all_ Debian users
that don't happen lo live in one small country whose inhabitants don't
seem to understand there's a world outside their country. Or why do you
intentionally cripple all 8bit characters in your mail?
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From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)
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On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 01:57:20PM +0200, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote:
> reopen 147148
Same player shoot again
> tag 147148 woody
>
> >--[Debian Bug Tracking System]--<owner@bugs.debian.org>
> > I cannot reproduce #130259, so I guess it is fixed now and
> > we can close this bugreport.
>
> Please actually read the bug report. That includes reading the references
> bug reports 130259 and 122533. The bug is still there since woody still
> comes with KDE 2.
I did read these bugreports. I understand your reaction, seeing trivial
fixes ignored is always painful. But forget about the past and consider
the current situation; woody has been released, and you do not have to
convince glibc maintainers that a new glibc must be released for woody,
but our Stable Release Manager. The problems exposed here have a trivial
workaround by setting environment variables, so I cannot imagine how you
will do.
For this reason, there is absolutely no gain in keeping this bugreport
open against the locales package.
If you still disagree and reopen it, I will downgrade it to wishlist
and/or reassign it to kdebase. I am currently filtering out locales
bugs, and do not want to waste our (i.e. your and mine) time discussing
issues which will never be fixed, fixing current bugs is more important.
To make it clear, yes I think that this issue should have been seriously
considered when it was time (but May 2002 was surely too late, please
try to report such bugs sooner), but having an important BR against
a woody version does not help, you have instead to convince the Stable
Release Manager that a new libc is important for our woody users.
Denis
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