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Bug#185269: marked as done (locales: locales never works just after dpkg-reconfiguring (wish))



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From: Osvaldo La Rosa <info@brlspeak.net>
Subject: locales: locales never works just after dpkg-reconfiguring (wish)
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Package: locales
Version: 2.2.5-11.2
Severity: wishlist

I encounter probably a classical problem: after installing locales and
choose for ex. en_US iso8859-1 it would be nice if:
a) the /etc/locale.gen contains this param
b) the /etc/environment is generated (it does not until know anad as far as
I observed)
c) it would be nice if the environment is reloaded so that this new locales
will take effect without having to reboot the system.
Note: the same problem occurs while installing the Debian system from cd or
from net, locales are never configured after you configure them, and no
matter what you choosed (fr, nl, en).

-- System Information
Debian Release: 3.0
Kernel Version: Linux bluestar 2.4.18-586tsc #1 Sun Apr 14 10:57:57 EST 2002 i586 unknown

Versions of the packages locales depends on:
ii  debconf        1.0.32         Debian configuration management system
ii  libc6          2.2.5-11.2     GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone
	^^^ (Provides virtual package glibc-2.2.5-11.2)

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From: GOTO Masanori <gotom@debian.or.jp>
To: Osvaldo La Rosa <info@brlspeak.net>
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Hi,

At Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:37:00 +0200,
Osvaldo La Rosa wrote:
> My purpose was just in the severity 0 (or wishlist),
> but your reaction was something as "I let lose your time" so what would
> you like that I say ?

Ah, sorry, but your report had the information merely.

> of course, close it, the problem subsists, I installed yesterday Debian
> again on my repared Maxtor hd, and I did 2 times dpkg-reconfigure
> locales so that my 3 selected languages (en, fr, nl) were finally added
> in the locale.gen and so that en_us were the default in
> /etc/environment.
> That's all I have to say;

That's good.

Hmm, it seems you had a problem; I know it for the first time.  It
seems your problem is not "wishlist", but "normal" bug.  If you
installed the woody's glibc, I guess you hit the old locales bug.
It's already fixed in the sid/sarge latest locales package.

> the rest is not my problem, I am not a technician, I'am an end-user, and
> i hope GNU/Linuxs community philosophy is not one of elite people, but
> also open to such end-users that don't want t oread tons of doc but just
> do things taht work.
> That's all for me now.
> Do what you think you must do, or do not if you think "there's no
> problem, and I don't listen to stupid end-users".

No, I have no intension to annoy you.  If you feel so, I apologize to
you.  At least from your report, I did not get any information about
your wish or problem - you should take a valid information to us.

Now your problem is gone away, I close this bug.

> Have a nice day.
> PS: the locales change was NOT ok after i rebooted, that was why I did
> again a dpkg-reconfigure for the 2nd time; but cool, its maybe me!
> 
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 07:18:51PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Could I close this report?
> > 
> > At Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:14:33 +0900,
> > GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > > At Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:08:07 +0100,
> > > Osvaldo La Rosa wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 02:07:14PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> > > > > "take effect" is obscure representation...  Do you think the current
> > > > > all program should change the environment variable? 
> > > > No progs were running at that moment, I see if it takes effect when
> > > > starting Mutt; but here there was no effect.
> > > 
> > > Because your executed Mutt follows your shell environment variable; so
> > > you logout your shell and re-login.
> > > 
> > > > if you tell that this is impossible, well i want to ask then: why doe
> > > > changing country under Kde takes effect after you logged out then in
> > > > again?
> > > 
> > > I don't know, but look at your environment variable "LANG" or "LC_*"
> > > (like LC_ALL, LC_CTYPE, ...).  They are changed between logout and
> > > login.  Is it different from your shell login/logout?
> > > 
> > > > so can't we imagine something similar to resolve this "take effect of
> > > > locales chnge" problem? or is it too different?
> > > >
> > > > > I recommend reboot or restart daemons.  OTOH, try "telnet localhost".
> > > > > You see /etc/environment is affected immediately.
> > > > That's not; i runned once again dpkg-reconfigure locales and then I saw
> > > > that /etc/environment was modified, and idem for /etc/locale.gen
> > > 
> > > Hehe, I guess you don't have un*x/locale basic knowledge well, or you
> > > don't test my example.  If so, do study before submitting bug report,
> > > not to consume my time.  If you know well, then please provide
> > > complete example and what your wish is.
> > 
> > -- gotom
> 



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