Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)
- To: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
- Cc: Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>, ARM <debian-arm@lists.debian.org>, debian-release@lists.debian.org, debian-admin@lists.debian.org, team@security.debian.org, debian-gcc@lists.debian.org, debian-glibc@lists.debian.org
- Subject: Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)
- From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
- Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:31:08 +0200
- Message-id: <[🔎] 87d0w98k5f.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>
- In-reply-to: <[🔎] CAPweEDxcmFunH_ojS7vadQ4euczq4pC=7Hz4iCbQ2gfzrP0mgg@mail.gmail.com> (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton's message of "Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:05:55 +0100")
- References: <[🔎] d47ea159-ace7-e36d-ccb7-14ea911dbc6e@thykier.net> <[🔎] 20180629071600.GA27399@taurus.defre.kleine-koenig.org> <[🔎] daf4d1d4-1ee0-f983-44d4-9923add01324@debian.org> <[🔎] 20180629162138.rbvkm53mcvixxrwv@tack.einval.com> <[🔎] CAPweEDxcmFunH_ojS7vadQ4euczq4pC=7Hz4iCbQ2gfzrP0mgg@mail.gmail.com>
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton:
> that is not a surprise to hear: the massive thrashing caused by the
> linker phase not being possible to be RAM-resident will be absolutely
> hammering the drives beyond reasonable wear-and-tear limits. which is
> why i'm recommending people try "-Wl,--no-keep-memory".
Note that ld will sometimes stuff everything into a single RWX segment
as a result, which is not desirable.
Unfortunately, without significant investment into historic linker
technologies (with external sorting and that kind of stuff), I don't
think it is viable to build 32-bit software natively in the near
future. Maybe next year only a few packages will need exceptions, but
the number will grow with each month. Building on 64-bit kernels will
delay the inevitable because more address space is available to user
space, but that's probably 12 to 18 month extended life-time for
native building.
Reply to:
- References:
- Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns
- From: Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net>
- Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj
- From: Uwe Kleine-König <uwe@kleine-koenig.org>
- Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concernsj
- From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
- Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)
- From: Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
- Re: Arm ports build machines (was Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns)
- From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>