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Re: Bug#149463: There should be a gcc version with stack protection patch



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Hello Daniel,
> > Torsten Knodt <tk-debian@datas-world.de> writes:
> > > thats not what I wanted to do. I think IBM and the other big users
> > > of this patch, will do this themselves. But I think in the meantime
> > > it would be a win to debian. Yes, it's mostly not a good idea to
> > > have features patches in the debian diff, but this would give
> > > security and, when I'm not wrong, wouldn't not make the compiled
> > > programs incompatible to normal programs.
> > It probably would, because of the access to /dev/urandom. I haven't
> > tried, but I'm sure I could construct an application that would break
> > if that feature is enabled.
> Easily.  It will wastefully drain the entropy pool of the system, with
> potentially severe impact on any crypto with a legitimate need for
> entropy.
Right, that's something I didn't think of.

> > > That's why I suggested a separate version of gcc as an option. Like
> > > there are versions with and without ssl for many packages, there
> > > could be a gcc version with and without stack protection. If you
> > > think this not a good idea, I would agree to close the report.
> > Anybody that wants to use this patch on a regular basis can already do
> > so. Anybody who wants this package only rarely won't be helped much by
> > a separate package, IMO. In a separate package, it would IMO increase
> > the maintainance overhead, and prevent that remaining problems are
> > found.
> > I think the best use of this patch would be if someone would try to
> > create a complete Debian distribution with the compiler, and run the
> > it with to find problems in the existing packages. The set of problems
> > found will also help in evaluating the patch. All you need is a lot of
> > disk space and spare cycles.
> I agree.  There's very little point in adding this patch, especially to
> a version of GCC we're trying to obsolete soon.
This patch is also avalaible for newer versions. I filed it against 2.95, 
because of actual interest. I'd like to use it with a package I've created 
(waiting for ftp-master), which only compiles with 2.95 until now.

With kind regards
	Torsten Knodt
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