Re: Debian Women Introduction
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:52:20PM -0400, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
>
>
> Hello Yehuda,
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:17:22AM +0300, Yehuda Korotkin wrote:
> > Hello Debian Women,
> >
> > My name is Yehuda Korotkin and I teach technologies in one of leading
> > colleges for women in Israel.
> >
> > I thought about the possibility of introduce Debian and the Debian
> > community to the girls that i teach.
> >
> > Our girls will install Debian Linux for the first time in their lives next
> > week. I would like to take them on a journey in the Debian world (from
> > installation to community behind code). And give them a feeling of welcome
> > and belonging to Debian.
> >
> > I think would be fun and interesting to make a video conference call with
> > community and give them a general explanation about Debian, introduce them
> > to the community and get them welcome to the world of Debian
> >
> > We could allocate up to 45 minutes for this conference.
> > The study hours are GMT+2 (Jerusalem Time) between Sun-Thu 10:00-19:00.
> >
> > I hope that in a soon will be more active profiles on
> > https://www.debian.org/women/profiles/
> >
> >
> > So, What do you say ?
> > Pros?
> > Cons?
> >
> > >>> Your opinion is important to me, tell me what you think
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yehuda Korotkin
> >
> > <http://www.korotkin.co.il/>
> >
> > web www.korotkin.co.il
> >
> > mobile +972 (50) 414-6444
> >
> > email yehuda@korotkin.co.il
> ---end quoted text---
>
>
> Great that you are introducing your students to Debian!
>
> I'm not a big part of Debian aside from being a devoted user, but I'd
> like to let you know about how Debian works in terms of
> communications.
>
> Having a video conference like this is extremely unusual for the
> Debian organization. Mostly the users and developers use email, irc
> and other non-synchronous means for virtually all communication. Once
> in a while, there is a conference and some Debian people will meet in
> person. Mainly, the communications are not about introducing Debian -
> the people communicating are already using Debian. There is very
> little in the way of introductions/recruitment aside from the
> web pages that describe Debian (www.debian.org and the wiki).
>
> I can see the value in making the introduction to the students more
> interactive than the usual Debian communications though. A lot of
> people, esp. young people today (everywhere), are just not interested
> in typing to write programs or communicate.
>
> You have contacted a very good group in terms of getting a response
> for talking to women (debian-women).
>
> In addition, there are some groups among Debian that support "events".
> These people go to non-Debian conferences (that are willing to have
> them) and promote Debian there.
>
> I think it might be worth sending an email to those lists (usually
> called debian-events-???, like debian-events-na, etc). These people
> are used to receiving requests similar to what you want and are
> experienced in this kind of communication. Since you are willing to
> do a video conference, then probably anyone anywhere in the world can
> help you - they don't have to be in your region. It would help the
> person who will be introducing Debian to know a bit about the
> background of their audience.
>
> In terms of making the talk interesting to your students, these
> groups can also get some items like stickers or t-shirts to sell
> or give to the students. Normally they bring them to the event;
> I'm not sure if it will be possible to ship stuff like that to
> another country. Debian has pretty much no marketing budget.
>
> So I hope this helps! You can see a list of Debian mailing lists
> here:
>
> https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
>
> and here is the list of mailing lists with "events" in the name:
>
> debian-events-eu europe
> debian-events-ha hispanic america
> debian-events-na north america
> debian-events-nl netherlands
>
> I see also the lists with "dug" in the name (Debian user group,
> maybe) help to coordinate events in their regions:
>
> debian-dug-by Belarus
> debian-dug-ie ireland
> debian-dug-in india
> debian-dug-mx mexico
> debian-dug-quebec quebec
>
> You can also connect with the #debian irc chat on oftc. It would
> be closer to the kind of communications that Debian users are
> accustomed to. See https://www.debian.org/support and search for
> "On-line Real Time Help Using IRC" for more info.
>
> However, that channel is not really for social chitchat or general
> introductions. It is more for solving specific problems that you
> might run into while installing or using Debian. You can get
> almost-real-time help from there. So it might be useful while your
> students are actually doing their install.
>
>
> Does anyone else have anything to add?
>
>
> So I hope I haven't misrepresented Debian ... I have copied this
> email to debian-events-na where I know there are some people
> who might respond.
>
> bjb
Hi Yehuda and Brenda,
That's great info that you provided.
Just a few more bits.
There is an Organization 'Open Hatch', they typically visit campuses in the US
and do 'on boarding' for various open source projects by doing a presentation
about what Open sourcce is and about the community. One of the co-founders
(Asheesh aka Paulproteous) is a DD (debian developers), so this is a good
person to contact. He might do a video session or might have pointers as to a
contact in .il. Either way, its has good stuff to browser at their website.
You can chat on IRC at #openhatch on irc.freenode.net
I'll add my diagrams that are useful for Debian. They are not up-to-date as
Debian has changed since 2007 a bit. But you can try to use DIA to translate
them if you want.
http://mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/
http://mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/newdebian2.png
http://mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/debian-package.png
you can also look at the videos from the awesome minidebconf in Barcelona that
was made possible from Debian Women (10 years strong)
http://bcn2014.mini.debconf.org/
-Kevix
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