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Re: [buildd-tools-devel] Bug#610689: sbuild: cross support


2011/1/22 Roger Leigh <rleigh@codelibre.net>:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:09:55PM +0000, Hector Oron wrote:

> I think that the several uses of the --arch option are going to need
> separating into separate options.  Does the following make sense, or
> am I missing out anything major?

> 1) Selection of the build chroot
>   We look for a chroot named $distribution-$arch-sbuild or
>   $distribution-$arch
>   When we are genuinely building for a different arch, then this works.
>   When we're cross-compiling, we want to build on a chroot using the
>   host arch (most likely, though you /could/ use a different arch with
>   qemu and do an emulated cross-build once we have such support!)

$distribution, as in Debian or derivatives could be guessed using
dpkg-vendor variables.

$distribution as in Debian suites probably needs to be passed as argument,
as it is probably now.

$arch, it is splitted by dpkg-architecture into DEB_BUILD_* and

Let's use m68k as an example, in case we do native build:
  DEB_BUILD_ARCH (m68k) = DEB_HOST_ARCH (m68k)

if we do a cross-build
  DEB_BUILD_ARCH (amd64|i386) != DEB_HOST_ARCH (m68k)
we need to use DEB_BUILD_ARCH chroot and follow DEB_HOST_ARCH
*.changes file.

if we do an emulated build
  DEB_BUILD_ARCH (amd64|i386) = DEB_HOST_ARCH (amd64|i386) -- out of the chroot
  DEB_BUILD_ARCH (m68k) = DEB_HOST_ARCH (m68k) -- within the chroot
I do not think we need a new variable on dpkg-architecture, as this is same
as doing a native build but picking a foreign architecture, which we could use
current --arch switch on sbuild. If --arch is used, dpkg
--print-architecture checks
should probably need to be bypassed.

if we do an emulated build faking emulated compilers by cross
compilers (croco approach),
it can be done transparently, just depending on the chroot
configuration (i.e. croco is
installed ) or maybe we need to explicitly tell the build to make use
of cross compilers or not
make use of them, in any case I do not think sbuild/schroot need to
know about it.

What do others think?

> 2) Selection of the host architecture
>   Linked to (1).  We are assuming that the build and host architectures
>   are the same, so --host is implicitly setting both.
> I think we should add two additional options:
>  --host   select host arch
>  --build  select build arch
> (or whatever are most commonly used in existing Debian tools; these are
> from autoconf configure) and have "--arch=foo" be equivalent to
> "--host=foo --build=foo".
> The chroot selection will use the host arch only.  So this will
> typically be the "real" host arch, but it will also allow "native"
> (non-cross) building using qemu as well as kernel personalities (i386
> on amd64 etc, which is already supported).  When we come to run
> dpkg-buildpackage, we will then pass the build arch which will result
> in a cross-build if this differs from the host arch.
> Hopefully this will implement support fairly cleanly and flexibly.

On the previous options described above, we might want to develop some
syntax in the control files which can mark packages to be able to be cross
built or built emulated. Sbuild should decode that information from control
file information, then set accordingly --host, --build or whatever we call them,
but I am afraid this naming might help confusing things much more with build,
host and target.

(( Info: I was going to suggest the use of  '--cross $arch --arch $_arch'
which implies building on a chroot of architecture $_arch and passing
dpkg-buildpackage '-a$arch' in the build. Then, in the case of emulated build,
we could explicitly tell sbuild by other option '--emulate' (or else).
But maybe your suggestion is cleaner ))

> Following on from that there's the issue of resolver support and
> use of xapt.  Some examples of how xapt would be used would help
> here; I'm a bit unsure of if it's used directly as an apt-get
> wrapper, or if it's a multi-step process.  Understanding the
> workflow would be most useful.

xapt reads build dependencies of package and then it downloads those
for the cross architecture, passing the packages to dpkg-cross which
puts headers and libraries ready to be used by the cross tools.
It can be called directly from command-line (before running the build).
All this trickery should go away after multiarch bits are in place which
should be able to provide libraries and headers cleanly and transparently
for foreign architectures.

Best regards,
 Héctor Orón

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