Am 2008-10-29 07:59:34, schrieb Neil Williams: > I want Grip to be a release-goal for Squeeze. I want someone to join the > work and let me get on with Crush, TDebs, cross-build support in Debian, > NMU's etc. You'll have all the support you need, just do some of the > work. > :-) Since I now have a fast 3.6 MBit connection with unlimited traffic over GSM/UMTS/HSDPA I can restart my activities and look into... OK, I am currently developing some ARM 7/9/11 based systems and have the need for EmDebian... > Grip doesn't need to be cross-compiled, it should support native > building ON an Emdebian Grip machine. Yes, it probably will be slow but > cross-building is still not implemented in more than 1% of Debian > packages. It seems, I have to build first my <buildd> based on an i.MX37... > Grip needs to have almost a full package set - I'd guess at 10,000 or > maybe 15,000 packages of the 20,000 in Debian. Crush currently has 248. ;-) > Cross-building is not part of Grip. Cross-building is initially related > only to Emdebian Crush using functionality changes for dependency > reduction. Cross-building may be a bonus from work on Crush but Grip is > essentially about repackaging prebuilt native binaries. Packages can be > "gripped" during the build, prior to inclusion into a Grip repository or > after downloading onto the device running Grip (if sufficient space > exists). Is it no enough, if I download the package, use dpkg to unpack it, then strip it and use dpkg-repack to have the small striped package? > Packages can be gripped on any architecture, for any architecture. It > doesn't matter if you want to Grip powerpc packages on amd64, just as > long as the full sized powerpc binaries exist - in most cases, exist in > a Debian mirror somewhere. emgrip is based on dpkg-cross without the > -cross stuff so it can work anywhere (hence the limited dependencies) > and churn out any package for any architecture whilst working on any > architecture. There is no compilation involved. > > Emdebian Grip aims to provide a natively-built Debian Installation for > any architecture supported by Debian in a way that is functionally > identical to Debian, just smaller and using TDebs in the Emdebian manner > for extra granularity. However, if Grip does get to 10,000 packages, > using Emdebian TDebs would turn that into more like 150,000 which may > well be a decision that has to be faced at some point. Wow! One of my older systems (~7 years) has a repository of any "binarys" and "libs" I could need and then if I had the need for a new binary, I used ldd <binary> to know, which dependencies I must resolv... and copy the needed files into my system. THis leed to the real bare minimum of files using a STANDARD precompiled distribution. Hey realy, it is working up to now... Beginning with "Slink" and going over "Potato" and "Woody" to "Sarge"... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/9351947 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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