Re: FYI: GNU Emacs Manual to be moved to non-free
On 14 May 2003 07:08:06 -0400, Thien-Thi Nguyen <email@example.com> said:
> Jérôme Marant <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> (if Debian decides to apply DFSG to documentation).
> that is the crux of the problem. guess i'll stick w/ debian for
> most things, but /usr/local installation for emacs -- this has
> worked well for awhile now. i feel there is no point arguing the
> applicability of DFSG to documentation (IMHO it is not applicable);
I beg to differ. The DFSG, in my opinion, applies to anything
that Debian ships -- it is encoded, ultimately, in 0's and 1's, and
thus is software, as opposed to hardware or wetware.
Not being able to remove the invariant sections when I am
trying to extract a subset of the document for use in other places
(like I can with subsets of the code) seems to limit my freedom;
Please look at the archives of debian-legal for the various valid
points that have been made by people in debian.
> if people want to avoid the tricky problem of harmonizing licenses
> and instead go for the simpler reject-all-that-is-not-ours immune
> system repsonse, that's their business.
No. We have done an evaluation of the GDFL, and it was found
wanting. You are belittling the stance taken by Debian; we have a
track record of not shrinking from doing the right thing. Marking the
GDFL as non-free may well be the right thing as far as our opinion
goes, if that is road we do go down on.
> the root of ethical behavior does not lie in the prevailing legal
> environment, nor in the actions of others.
Funny. Seems to me that demanding libré documentation keeps to
the spirit of freedom of software; rather than insisting parts of
software be immutable and unremovable.
Please join -legal if you think you have valid arguments on
this issue; sniping at debian on unrelated mailing lists is not helpful.
Household hint: If you are out of cream for your coffee, mayonnaise
makes a dandy substitute.
Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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