On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 07:11:44PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
>Hello Debian EFI support developers,
>I would like to install Debian testing on a box with two identical
>drives in software RAID1 (mirroring) and I was planning the partition
>While doing so, I realized that this new box has UEFI (instead of BIOS)
>on the motherboard, and hence needs an ESP (EFI System Partition) in
>order to host the GRUB bootloader (correct?).
>I searched the web about how to set up ESP partitions on two separate
>drives in order to be able to boot from any of them, in case one breaks,
>and I found scarce and inconsistent information... :-(
>With the old BIOS-based machines, one would simply install GRUB on the
>MBR of one drive and then
> # dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
>and select both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb as install devices.
>With the new UEFI-based machines, it seems to me that this possibility
>is not (well) supported. I read on the Debian Wiki  that there's
>"no support for putting the ESP on two separate disks in RAID" !
Correct. The ESP is much more complicated than an MBR and boot sector
like old-style BIOS boot. It needs to be a FAT filesystem and the
firmware needs to understand how to mount and use it. Most UEFI
implementors will expect you to be either using a single disk here, or
a firmware-supported hardware RAID device. I'm not aware of any that
might understand Linux's software RAID options for this, and would be
very surprised if any did! You *might* be able to get something
working using the fake/BIOS RAID type setups, but I've no experience
of ever getting any of those to work well under Linux. :-/
>On the other hand, another Debian Wiki page  states that you can
>dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 on EFI systems and select GRUB install
>devices. However, I don't see any debconf templates for grub-efi-amd64
>in the grub2 source package debian/ directory : does this mean that
>grub-efi-amd64 does not support asking the user to select install
Correct. It will always install to the ESP that you've configured, and
only one ESP is supported.
>I found a number of places  on the web where it is suggested to
>manually clone the ESP from one drive to the other with:
> # dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1
>But this should be repeated whenever anything changes on the ESP and I
>will sure forget doing so one day or another. There should be a trigger
>from the relevant packages (grub-efi-amd64, I suppose, and maybe other
>ones) that keeps the "slave" ESPs up-to-date w.r.t. to the "master"
>one: is there such a trigger?
It won't work *yet* - on top of this, we'll also need to add support
in various places to add more than one Boot entry, pointing at
both/all N copies of the ESP. Assuming competent firmware (hah!) this
should then work OK. This is what I referred to in
which you've already read. We'd then add code in grub/elsewhere to
manage multiple copies of the ESP as different independent FAT
>So, my question is: what's the recommended way to set up a RAID1 on a
>UEFI system and make sure the system will still boot, when any of the
For actual RAID1, I'd *try* a BIOS-RAID type setup if your hardware
does it for now. Otherwise, you could try and get the multi-ESP route
working. Patches welcome if you can make it work; I'm hoping to work
on this as a feature for Stretch, but I've not found any time to start
on it yet.
Hope this helps!
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. email@example.com
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