Hi Andreas, On Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > While I doubt that the long list has shortened automatically I never said it shortended *automatically*! > the log files > from the tasks pages creation job can be always be found here: > http://blends.debian.org/_logs/debian-edu.log thanks - that list is way better than the original one (which had lots of irrelevant information..) - and it's also way shorter. I'll go through it and see what substance is in there.. > http://blends.debian.net/packages-metadata/debian-edu_uud_import_log/20141 > 022_blends_metadata_gatherer-debian-edu.log > Probably this is the most valuable source of information to detect > problems in the specified names of packages because it tries even harder > to give hints for instance also inspects the Ubuntu package pool where > some older versions might be kept and thus you know what might be > outdated. thats exactly why this list is less useful (though it seems to be shorter than the one in the original report?!) because it has more information than needed and thus distracts / blurries the view. For example: 2014-10-22 07:09:21,766 - INFO - (190): Blend debian-edu task common: Package ion2 is provided in Ubuntu ion2 is dead since years (6 or 7 or so... years!), so I have no clue why UDD says its still in Ubuntu (it's also still in Debian etch or lenny), but if I see this, I will not track those 200 other entries telling me it's in Ubuntu. Instead it should plainly say: "no information about ion2 available in the archive". - or whatever. Your first link is *much* better in this regard. So while this import list is indeed noisy and this is partly Debian Edus "fault" - because as I said, by design we include packages not (yet) available anymore in our tasks. and then by design we also forget to clean those lists... - but it's also noisy because it adds information from an unrelated source (ubuntu) and then overlays this information over other information it has about Debian, so that this other info gets hidden. And *this* needs to be fixed in the UDD importer, and not in the Edu tasks. Thanks, Holger
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