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Re: Thoughts on roaming laptop setup for Debian Edu

2012/1/27 Giorgio Pioda <gfwp@ticino.com>:
> I also would argue that wicd is fairly less efficient
> than network manager. I've tested it
> recently on an fresh Wheezy-XFCE but at school I wasn't able to
> connect and had to replace it with n-m.
> Cheers

I  agree. Things have changed in the latest two years. The development
of n-m has continued improving the application, while wicd has
stalled, keeping some ugly bugs for months.

I still think wicd has a more friendly interface for non-geek users,
specially when you want the computer to get a network connection
before login. That's something that will require root access in n-m
while it's easy for any user without root access using wicd. However ,
the bugs wicd is keeping are making it less efficient with some
wireless encription methods, so we have been migrating our machines to
n-m in the last months.


> Giorgio
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:18:12PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>> [Petter Reinholdtsen 2010-07-10]
>> >  * The wicd package is installed (instead of network-manager).  Not
>> >    sure if this is a good idea or not, but the report from Extremadura
>> >    made me put it in there as a test.
>> Based on todays tests, I am starting to suspect it might be better to
>> use network-manager.
>> I installed a roaming workstation using PXE in a Debian Edu/Squeeze
>> network today, and the installation worked fairly well (partition size
>> issues - updated d-e-install with new sizes).  After installation, I can
>> log in with the first user, and a local home directory is created and
>> used after I log in for the second time.  I can disconnect the network
>> cable and still log in using cached credentials.  All good so far.
>> But, when I try to connect to the wireless networks around me, wicd do
>> not see anything.  I had to manually configure wicd to use wlan0 as the
>> wireless interface to be able to see the wireless networks.  And when I
>> try to select the non-encrypted network I want to use, I am unable to
>> get any IP address.
>> After removing the wicd package and installing the network-manager-kde
>> instead to get a KDE panel widget to control network-manager, I am able
>> to connect to the wireless network.
>> Anyone want to debug wicd in this setup, or should we just switch to
>> network-manager on Roaming Workstation profiles?  Possible advantages:
>>  - It will discover wireless interfaces without any configuration.
>>  - Roaming Workstation will use network manager the same way Standalone
>>    (and all other profiles?) do it now.
>> Possible problems
>>  - Roaming Workstation will not work for new users because the network
>>    is not enabled at boot but only after first login, and thus no
>>    connection to LDAP and Kerberos can be made.
>> The problems I see might be because wicd and network-manager are
>> confusing each other.  I did not have much time to debug.
>> --
>> Happy hacking
>> Petter Reinholdtsen
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